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Attributes | |
ACN | 380957 |
Time | |
Date | 199709 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mkc |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mkc |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 190 |
ASRS Report | 380957 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 3200 |
ASRS Report | 382159 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was being 'checked out' in cherokee (PA28-180) from an FBO at mkc on sep/xa/97 by a CFI. I was flying this plane in the left seat with the CFI in the right seat. We had a passenger in the back seat. The CFI was manning the radios. We were in the pattern at mkc using runway 19. While on right downwind for runway 19, the CFI asked the controller for a short approach and the option. We received approval for both from the controller. Just prior to being abeam of runway 19 threshold, the CFI pulled back the throttle, simulating an engine failure. I adjusted the aircraft to best glide and turned right base. During this time I was putting in full flaps. I flew the aircraft to the threshold of runway 19 and made the turn to final inside the threshold. At that time I saw a cessna on the runway ahead of us. I was surprised to see this plane since we had approval for the short approach and had been cleared for the option. The CFI said, 'we have to do something.' I made the decision to apply power and initiate a go around. The controller then said, 'cherokee, go around.' the controller also advised us to fly on the right side of the runway, which I did. I could see that we were overtaking and passing the cessna prior to mid field. As we passed the cessna, it disappeared from my sight under my left wing. I was ensuring that I could increase my airspeed and achieve a positive rate of climb before gradually retracting the flaps on my climb out. The CFI instructed me to fly at a southwest angle away from the runway so as not to interfere with the cessna's departure. Eventually, as my distance from the runway increased, off my left wing I could see the cessna rotate and initiate its climb from the departure end of runway 19. Because of my aircraft's close proximity to the cessna on the runway, when I turned final, evasive action was needed to avert an accident. I feel that the cessna should have been told by the controller to hold short of the runway for landing traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28-180 ACFT ON TRAINING FLT WITH SIMULATED ENG FAILURE PRIOR TO TURNING BASE. FLC CLRED FOR LNDG WHEN ATCT LCL CTLR CLRED ANOTHER ACFT ON RWY FOR TKOF TOO CLOSE TO RPTR ACFT WHICH HAD TO DO A GAR. RPTR PLTS WERE CONCERNED WHEN LOSING SIGHT OF AN ACFT TAKING OFF AND CLBING UNDER THEM.
Narrative: I WAS BEING 'CHKED OUT' IN CHEROKEE (PA28-180) FROM AN FBO AT MKC ON SEP/XA/97 BY A CFI. I WAS FLYING THIS PLANE IN THE L SEAT WITH THE CFI IN THE R SEAT. WE HAD A PAX IN THE BACK SEAT. THE CFI WAS MANNING THE RADIOS. WE WERE IN THE PATTERN AT MKC USING RWY 19. WHILE ON R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 19, THE CFI ASKED THE CTLR FOR A SHORT APCH AND THE OPTION. WE RECEIVED APPROVAL FOR BOTH FROM THE CTLR. JUST PRIOR TO BEING ABEAM OF RWY 19 THRESHOLD, THE CFI PULLED BACK THE THROTTLE, SIMULATING AN ENG FAILURE. I ADJUSTED THE ACFT TO BEST GLIDE AND TURNED R BASE. DURING THIS TIME I WAS PUTTING IN FULL FLAPS. I FLEW THE ACFT TO THE THRESHOLD OF RWY 19 AND MADE THE TURN TO FINAL INSIDE THE THRESHOLD. AT THAT TIME I SAW A CESSNA ON THE RWY AHEAD OF US. I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THIS PLANE SINCE WE HAD APPROVAL FOR THE SHORT APCH AND HAD BEEN CLRED FOR THE OPTION. THE CFI SAID, 'WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.' I MADE THE DECISION TO APPLY PWR AND INITIATE A GAR. THE CTLR THEN SAID, 'CHEROKEE, GO AROUND.' THE CTLR ALSO ADVISED US TO FLY ON THE R SIDE OF THE RWY, WHICH I DID. I COULD SEE THAT WE WERE OVERTAKING AND PASSING THE CESSNA PRIOR TO MID FIELD. AS WE PASSED THE CESSNA, IT DISAPPEARED FROM MY SIGHT UNDER MY L WING. I WAS ENSURING THAT I COULD INCREASE MY AIRSPD AND ACHIEVE A POSITIVE RATE OF CLB BEFORE GRADUALLY RETRACTING THE FLAPS ON MY CLBOUT. THE CFI INSTRUCTED ME TO FLY AT A SW ANGLE AWAY FROM THE RWY SO AS NOT TO INTERFERE WITH THE CESSNA'S DEP. EVENTUALLY, AS MY DISTANCE FROM THE RWY INCREASED, OFF MY L WING I COULD SEE THE CESSNA ROTATE AND INITIATE ITS CLB FROM THE DEP END OF RWY 19. BECAUSE OF MY ACFT'S CLOSE PROX TO THE CESSNA ON THE RWY, WHEN I TURNED FINAL, EVASIVE ACTION WAS NEEDED TO AVERT AN ACCIDENT. I FEEL THAT THE CESSNA SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE CTLR TO HOLD SHORT OF THE RWY FOR LNDG TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.