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Reporter was given landing clearance on runway 9R and told to hold short runway 12. The hold short was retracted after the flight crew stated they were unable. As reporter's aircraft was rolling out, the reporter alleges the local controller cleared an aircraft for takeoff on runway 12 and stated the reporter's aircraft was holding short of the runway. Previous to landing, the flight crew were told that the runway was dry which was not the case.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 381038 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199709 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mia |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 381038 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
When contacting mia approach we told them we could not accept a land hold short clearance on runway 9R. When we were handed over to tower we were cleared to land runway 9R, and hold short of runway 12. We said unable. They retracted the hold short part of the clearance. We earlier asked if the runway was wet or dry. They said it was dry. There were rain showers in the area and on final and on landing, the runway was wet! While we were rolling out on our landing, this same controller cleared someone for takeoff on runway 12 and told them we were holding short. This is a very serious problem. 1) the controller has no idea what the runway condition is. 2) after retracting the hold short clearance, he told someone else we were holding short of his takeoff runway -- which was not the case. This has to stop! What are we going to do to avoid a disaster in the future?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR WAS GIVEN LNDG CLRNC ON RWY 9R AND TOLD TO HOLD SHORT RWY 12. THE HOLD SHORT WAS RETRACTED AFTER THE FLC STATED THEY WERE UNABLE. AS RPTR'S ACFT WAS ROLLING OUT, THE RPTR ALLEGES THE LCL CTLR CLRED AN ACFT FOR TKOF ON RWY 12 AND STATED THE RPTR'S ACFT WAS HOLDING SHORT OF THE RWY. PREVIOUS TO LNDG, THE FLC WERE TOLD THAT THE RWY WAS DRY WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE.
Narrative: WHEN CONTACTING MIA APCH WE TOLD THEM WE COULD NOT ACCEPT A LAND HOLD SHORT CLRNC ON RWY 9R. WHEN WE WERE HANDED OVER TO TWR WE WERE CLRED TO LAND RWY 9R, AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 12. WE SAID UNABLE. THEY RETRACTED THE HOLD SHORT PART OF THE CLRNC. WE EARLIER ASKED IF THE RWY WAS WET OR DRY. THEY SAID IT WAS DRY. THERE WERE RAIN SHOWERS IN THE AREA AND ON FINAL AND ON LNDG, THE RWY WAS WET! WHILE WE WERE ROLLING OUT ON OUR LNDG, THIS SAME CTLR CLRED SOMEONE FOR TKOF ON RWY 12 AND TOLD THEM WE WERE HOLDING SHORT. THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS PROB. 1) THE CTLR HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE RWY CONDITION IS. 2) AFTER RETRACTING THE HOLD SHORT CLRNC, HE TOLD SOMEONE ELSE WE WERE HOLDING SHORT OF HIS TKOF RWY -- WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE. THIS HAS TO STOP! WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO AVOID A DISASTER IN THE FUTURE?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.