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Attributes | |
ACN | 381040 |
Time | |
Date | 199709 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : vxv |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 4190 flight time type : 973 |
ASRS Report | 381040 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 7500 vertical : 2400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were north of vxv VOR at FL290 when ZID told us to turn, what we understood to be 15 degrees left. We complied with this. A few mins later center asked us our heading and what our previous heading was, to which the captain replied he didn't remember. Center then informed us about opposite traffic which he was trying to vector us from. The other aircraft was 2400 ft higher and 2-3 mi east of our position. Center then cleared us direct to vxv VOR. One way to avoid confusion as to which way to vector aircraft for opposing traffic is to ask what the current heading is and then fly a specific new heading.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MD88 WERE GIVEN TURN BY ATC TO AVOID TFC. SUBSEQUENTLY ATC INTERVENED AND ASKED THEIR HDG NOW, AND BEFORE THEIR TURN, THEN GAVE THEM THE LOCATION OF OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC IN WHICH THE CTLR WAS TRYING TO KEEP SEPARATED FROM THEM. THEY WERE THEN GIVEN CLRNC FOR DIRECT TO NEARBY VOR IN ORDER TO GET BACK ON COURSE.
Narrative: WE WERE N OF VXV VOR AT FL290 WHEN ZID TOLD US TO TURN, WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD TO BE 15 DEGS L. WE COMPLIED WITH THIS. A FEW MINS LATER CTR ASKED US OUR HDG AND WHAT OUR PREVIOUS HDG WAS, TO WHICH THE CAPT REPLIED HE DIDN'T REMEMBER. CTR THEN INFORMED US ABOUT OPPOSITE TFC WHICH HE WAS TRYING TO VECTOR US FROM. THE OTHER ACFT WAS 2400 FT HIGHER AND 2-3 MI E OF OUR POS. CTR THEN CLRED US DIRECT TO VXV VOR. ONE WAY TO AVOID CONFUSION AS TO WHICH WAY TO VECTOR ACFT FOR OPPOSING TFC IS TO ASK WHAT THE CURRENT HDG IS AND THEN FLY A SPECIFIC NEW HDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.