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Attributes | |
ACN | 381800 |
Time | |
Date | 199709 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bhm |
State Reference | AL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation V |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 381800 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were on about a 2 mi final with clearance to land behind a military sabreliner when we notice the aircraft roll past the midfield high speed taxiway on a 10000 ft runway. The local controller directed the sabre to exit at the next taxiway. The sabre rolled past that taxiway also. The controller told them to continue onto the next taxiway but he never told them to expedite as at this time we were on short final. We were expecting a possible go around at this point but the controller was asking the sabre which FBO were they parking at and clearing them to the ramp. We continued to a normal landing and turned off at our normal exiting taxiway which is several thousand ft short of where the sabre taxied off. I don't know if the sabre had completely cleared the runway when we touched down. The prudent action if this ever occurs again is to conduct a go around on our own to be sure no one else is possibly on the runway. One other factor of this situation was the controller handling both local and ground traffic together. I think the controller forgot about us on final as he was working other frequencys simultaneously which is happening more often.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF CITATION 560 IS CLRED TO LAND BEHIND A SABRELINER WHICH ROLLS PAST HIGH SPD TXWY. CTLR TELLS THEM TO EXIT NEXT TXWY. THEY ROLL PAST THAT AS WELL. CITATION CONTINUES TO NORMAL LNDG NOT SURE IF RWY WAS CLRED OR NOT.
Narrative: WE WERE ON ABOUT A 2 MI FINAL WITH CLRNC TO LAND BEHIND A MIL SABRELINER WHEN WE NOTICE THE ACFT ROLL PAST THE MIDFIELD HIGH SPD TXWY ON A 10000 FT RWY. THE LCL CTLR DIRECTED THE SABRE TO EXIT AT THE NEXT TXWY. THE SABRE ROLLED PAST THAT TXWY ALSO. THE CTLR TOLD THEM TO CONTINUE ONTO THE NEXT TXWY BUT HE NEVER TOLD THEM TO EXPEDITE AS AT THIS TIME WE WERE ON SHORT FINAL. WE WERE EXPECTING A POSSIBLE GAR AT THIS POINT BUT THE CTLR WAS ASKING THE SABRE WHICH FBO WERE THEY PARKING AT AND CLRING THEM TO THE RAMP. WE CONTINUED TO A NORMAL LNDG AND TURNED OFF AT OUR NORMAL EXITING TXWY WHICH IS SEVERAL THOUSAND FT SHORT OF WHERE THE SABRE TAXIED OFF. I DON'T KNOW IF THE SABRE HAD COMPLETELY CLRED THE RWY WHEN WE TOUCHED DOWN. THE PRUDENT ACTION IF THIS EVER OCCURS AGAIN IS TO CONDUCT A GAR ON OUR OWN TO BE SURE NO ONE ELSE IS POSSIBLY ON THE RWY. ONE OTHER FACTOR OF THIS SIT WAS THE CTLR HANDLING BOTH LCL AND GND TFC TOGETHER. I THINK THE CTLR FORGOT ABOUT US ON FINAL AS HE WAS WORKING OTHER FREQS SIMULTANEOUSLY WHICH IS HAPPENING MORE OFTEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.