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Attributes | |
ACN | 382827 |
Time | |
Date | 199710 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zid |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 34900 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Falcon 20FJF/20C/20D/20E/20F |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | controller military : 11 controller non radar : 3 controller radar : 5 controller supervisory : 6 flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5600 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 382827 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
I had a flameout of the right engine at FL349. I requested lower (FL280) at which time I restarted the engine. Once I arrived at our destination (okc) I contacted maintenance and was told that no other action was required. Once I landed at our destination I was told that I was in violation of far 121.563 and 121.701. I think a violation is pending. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states that the main problem was that he directly contacted maintenance rather than operations according to company procedures. He was given 2 weeks off without pay and 2 months downgrade to first officer. There were no violations filed. The restart occurred at about FL290. Maintenance changed the fuel control but 1 week after this incident there was another flameout. The aircraft is restr to FL310 now. This is the CJ6 engine which has a fan bolted onto the rear of the engine. There is often trouble with this engine.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A DA20 FALCON HAS ENG FLAMEOUT DURING CLB. THEY REQUEST AND RECEIVE LOWER. RESTART OCCURRED AT ABOUT FL290. AT DEST CONTACTED MAINT WHICH IS NOT PROPER PROC ACCORDING TO COMPANY OPS.
Narrative: I HAD A FLAMEOUT OF THE R ENG AT FL349. I REQUESTED LOWER (FL280) AT WHICH TIME I RESTARTED THE ENG. ONCE I ARRIVED AT OUR DEST (OKC) I CONTACTED MAINT AND WAS TOLD THAT NO OTHER ACTION WAS REQUIRED. ONCE I LANDED AT OUR DEST I WAS TOLD THAT I WAS IN VIOLATION OF FAR 121.563 AND 121.701. I THINK A VIOLATION IS PENDING. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES THAT THE MAIN PROB WAS THAT HE DIRECTLY CONTACTED MAINT RATHER THAN OPS ACCORDING TO COMPANY PROCS. HE WAS GIVEN 2 WKS OFF WITHOUT PAY AND 2 MONTHS DOWNGRADE TO FO. THERE WERE NO VIOLATIONS FILED. THE RESTART OCCURRED AT ABOUT FL290. MAINT CHANGED THE FUEL CTL BUT 1 WK AFTER THIS INCIDENT THERE WAS ANOTHER FLAMEOUT. THE ACFT IS RESTR TO FL310 NOW. THIS IS THE CJ6 ENG WHICH HAS A FAN BOLTED ONTO THE REAR OF THE ENG. THERE IS OFTEN TROUBLE WITH THIS ENG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.