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A cpr flight crew flying a CL60 on a river visual approach to runway 18 at dca had their runway changed to runway 21 by the tower and in attempting to set up their turn to final approach they penetrated P56.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 382870 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199710 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dca |
| State Reference | DC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1800 msl bound upper : 1800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca tower : dca tower : dfw |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Challenger CL601 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 13200 flight time type : 240 |
| ASRS Report | 382870 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7800 flight time type : 30 |
| ASRS Report | 383223 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Flying challenger CL601/3A aircraft on river visual to runway 18 at dca. Dawn conditions, no sun yet. 500 ft scattered layer. While flying river visual, tower changed our landing runway to runway 21 from runway 18. Aircraft was configured for landing runway 18. Approach briefed for runway 18. Reference speed 132 KTS. Approach phase flown at 142 KTS. When tower changed runway to runway 21 from runway 18, I flew aircraft to repos for runway 21. Aircraft violated restr area encompassing washington monument, white house, and area over vice president's residence. Dawn conditions, poor lighting, and scattered layer at 500 ft limited visibility. Pilot and crew lost sight of river while trying to fly river visual to runway 18. Pilot should not have accepted visual approach and late runway switch causing immediate aircraft safety concerns. I should have said 'unable' when switched from runway 18 to runway 21 on close final. Secret service interviewed us as to reason for 'nipping restr area.' 1 hour interview. Also talked to tower about procedure by telephone after landing. Prohibited areas P56 are names of involved areas. In my opinion, a landing on runway 21 following approach from north off the river visual to runway 18 is unsafe in high speed jet aircraft, especially with late change from the tower. Supplemental information from acn 383223: we strayed into the prohibited areas north of the potomac river. I feel that the captain should not have accepted the clearance to land on runway 21. I also feel the tower is encouraging unsafe arrs and departures when they issue clrncs on such short notice.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CPR FLC FLYING A CL60 ON A RIVER VISUAL APCH TO RWY 18 AT DCA HAD THEIR RWY CHANGED TO RWY 21 BY THE TWR AND IN ATTEMPTING TO SET UP THEIR TURN TO FINAL APCH THEY PENETRATED P56.
Narrative: FLYING CHALLENGER CL601/3A ACFT ON RIVER VISUAL TO RWY 18 AT DCA. DAWN CONDITIONS, NO SUN YET. 500 FT SCATTERED LAYER. WHILE FLYING RIVER VISUAL, TWR CHANGED OUR LNDG RWY TO RWY 21 FROM RWY 18. ACFT WAS CONFIGURED FOR LNDG RWY 18. APCH BRIEFED FOR RWY 18. REF SPD 132 KTS. APCH PHASE FLOWN AT 142 KTS. WHEN TWR CHANGED RWY TO RWY 21 FROM RWY 18, I FLEW ACFT TO REPOS FOR RWY 21. ACFT VIOLATED RESTR AREA ENCOMPASSING WASHINGTON MONUMENT, WHITE HOUSE, AND AREA OVER VICE PRESIDENT'S RESIDENCE. DAWN CONDITIONS, POOR LIGHTING, AND SCATTERED LAYER AT 500 FT LIMITED VISIBILITY. PLT AND CREW LOST SIGHT OF RIVER WHILE TRYING TO FLY RIVER VISUAL TO RWY 18. PLT SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCEPTED VISUAL APCH AND LATE RWY SWITCH CAUSING IMMEDIATE ACFT SAFETY CONCERNS. I SHOULD HAVE SAID 'UNABLE' WHEN SWITCHED FROM RWY 18 TO RWY 21 ON CLOSE FINAL. SECRET SVC INTERVIEWED US AS TO REASON FOR 'NIPPING RESTR AREA.' 1 HR INTERVIEW. ALSO TALKED TO TWR ABOUT PROC BY TELEPHONE AFTER LNDG. PROHIBITED AREAS P56 ARE NAMES OF INVOLVED AREAS. IN MY OPINION, A LNDG ON RWY 21 FOLLOWING APCH FROM N OFF THE RIVER VISUAL TO RWY 18 IS UNSAFE IN HIGH SPD JET ACFT, ESPECIALLY WITH LATE CHANGE FROM THE TWR. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 383223: WE STRAYED INTO THE PROHIBITED AREAS N OF THE POTOMAC RIVER. I FEEL THAT THE CAPT SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCEPTED THE CLRNC TO LAND ON RWY 21. I ALSO FEEL THE TWR IS ENCOURAGING UNSAFE ARRS AND DEPS WHEN THEY ISSUE CLRNCS ON SUCH SHORT NOTICE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.