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Flight crew of F100 vectored for visual approach to left runway, too high, requests a right 360 degree turn. Cleared for left 360 degree turn and encounters a DC9 during the turn. Completes approach and landing.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 382935 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199710 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : stl |
| State Reference | MO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : stl |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| ASRS Report | 382935 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 382934 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
ATC facility: stl approach. Location: over runway 12L OM. Being vectored for runway 12L visual. Cleared for the visual to runway 12L at 4000 ft. We were too close to final centerline and too high to accept, so we requested a right 360 degree turn. Approach told us to make a left 360 degree turn, so we did. In turn, encountered a DC9 for runway 12R. Had him in sight but was concerned about separation. The left 360 degree turn took us well through the runway 12L and runway 12R centerline. Supplemental information from acn 382934: called and spoke to stl approach supervisor about my concerns. He said he would look into it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF F100 VECTORED FOR VISUAL APCH TO L RWY, TOO HIGH, REQUESTS A R 360 DEG TURN. CLRED FOR L 360 DEG TURN AND ENCOUNTERS A DC9 DURING THE TURN. COMPLETES APCH AND LNDG.
Narrative: ATC FACILITY: STL APCH. LOCATION: OVER RWY 12L OM. BEING VECTORED FOR RWY 12L VISUAL. CLRED FOR THE VISUAL TO RWY 12L AT 4000 FT. WE WERE TOO CLOSE TO FINAL CTRLINE AND TOO HIGH TO ACCEPT, SO WE REQUESTED A R 360 DEG TURN. APCH TOLD US TO MAKE A L 360 DEG TURN, SO WE DID. IN TURN, ENCOUNTERED A DC9 FOR RWY 12R. HAD HIM IN SIGHT BUT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT SEPARATION. THE L 360 DEG TURN TOOK US WELL THROUGH THE RWY 12L AND RWY 12R CTRLINE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 382934: CALLED AND SPOKE TO STL APCH SUPVR ABOUT MY CONCERNS. HE SAID HE WOULD LOOK INTO IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.