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An small transport flying into lwb, wv, is not aware that landing slots are required. Several sources of NOTAMS are checked but nothing mentions the need for a landing slot. Flight crew is not aware of slot requirement until 2 days later.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 382980 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199710 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lwb |
| State Reference | WV |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 52 flight time total : 6970 flight time type : 2286 |
| ASRS Report | 382980 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 382747 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On planning a business trip to lwb to drop off 2 passenger, checked WX by our computer (air carrier) for a XA00 departure from agc. Lwb was 0/0 at this time and we waited to depart until lwb reported a 300 ft ceiling and 1 mi visibility which was XB55. Air carrier stated 'no NOTAMS' and when I filed with altoona FSS, no mention was made about needing a reservation into or out of lwb. The airport was not extremely busy at our arrival or departure. As a matter of fact, a C9 was doing touch and goes. It was only after my return to agc another pilot told me reservations were in effect. My operations into lwb without a reservation was not intentional. Supplemental information from acn 382747: the flight board in our dispatch office was checked (dispatch normally handles slots) and no slots were listed for our flight. Air carrier WX and NOTAM printout also was checked and no NOTAMS for slots into lwb were observed. The trip in and out was conducted without event. On discussion with a second crew 2 days later they found a NOTAM requiring slots for our arrival and departure date. In the future don't trust dispatch or air carrier. Exhaust every source for NOTAM information.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SMT FLYING INTO LWB, WV, IS NOT AWARE THAT LNDG SLOTS ARE REQUIRED. SEVERAL SOURCES OF NOTAMS ARE CHKED BUT NOTHING MENTIONS THE NEED FOR A LNDG SLOT. FLC IS NOT AWARE OF SLOT REQUIREMENT UNTIL 2 DAYS LATER.
Narrative: ON PLANNING A BUSINESS TRIP TO LWB TO DROP OFF 2 PAX, CHKED WX BY OUR COMPUTER (ACR) FOR A XA00 DEP FROM AGC. LWB WAS 0/0 AT THIS TIME AND WE WAITED TO DEPART UNTIL LWB RPTED A 300 FT CEILING AND 1 MI VISIBILITY WHICH WAS XB55. ACR STATED 'NO NOTAMS' AND WHEN I FILED WITH ALTOONA FSS, NO MENTION WAS MADE ABOUT NEEDING A RESERVATION INTO OR OUT OF LWB. THE ARPT WAS NOT EXTREMELY BUSY AT OUR ARR OR DEP. AS A MATTER OF FACT, A C9 WAS DOING TOUCH AND GOES. IT WAS ONLY AFTER MY RETURN TO AGC ANOTHER PLT TOLD ME RESERVATIONS WERE IN EFFECT. MY OPS INTO LWB WITHOUT A RESERVATION WAS NOT INTENTIONAL. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 382747: THE FLT BOARD IN OUR DISPATCH OFFICE WAS CHKED (DISPATCH NORMALLY HANDLES SLOTS) AND NO SLOTS WERE LISTED FOR OUR FLT. ACR WX AND NOTAM PRINTOUT ALSO WAS CHKED AND NO NOTAMS FOR SLOTS INTO LWB WERE OBSERVED. THE TRIP IN AND OUT WAS CONDUCTED WITHOUT EVENT. ON DISCUSSION WITH A SECOND CREW 2 DAYS LATER THEY FOUND A NOTAM REQUIRING SLOTS FOR OUR ARR AND DEP DATE. IN THE FUTURE DON'T TRUST DISPATCH OR ACR. EXHAUST EVERY SOURCE FOR NOTAM INFO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.