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A B737-200 approaching ags, GA, has a near midair collision with a light transport that departs a small adjoining field.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 382998 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199710 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ags |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2800 msl bound upper : 2800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ags |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Mitsubishi Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 382998 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 382326 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
| Airport | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
We were in radar control, vector heading 120 degrees to intercept ILS runway 17 approach in augusta, GA. We were cleared from 3000 ft MSL to 2000 ft MSL, maintaining 2000 ft until established on localizer runway 17. Just leaving 3000 ft with gear down, we were passing a small uncontrolled airport (daniel field) when we got a TCASII TA. Shortly after, a TCASII RA to climb. Simultaneously with pull up, I saw the traffic airborne off daniel field taking off northeast. We followed the TCASII RA and the traffic according to TCASII, got within 200 ft vertically and either passed directly under us, or just behind. We continued and landed uneventfully. Upon talking to approach control supervisor he stated that on VFR days, that has been a problem in the past. He stated anything short of a regulatory requirement will not solve the problem. The TCASII was invaluable in this case. A little stricter guidelines for VFR takeoffs out of uncontrolled airports would be helpful also. Supplemental information from acn 383326: then after initiating descent on GS another aircraft (high wing turboprop) took off from daniel field and made a slow climbing turn to the northwest. We were on the localizer and GS at approximately 2800-2600 ft, gear down and flaps 15 degrees. Transitioning to flaps 30 degrees when we received a TCASII TA. I located the traffic and saw a possible conflict and initiated a leveloff to prevent a conflict. Shortly later we received a TCASII RA and climb command. I initiated the climb and defused the situation. The conflict aircraft passed within 200 ft vertically off right side and slightly aft. After defusing the situation we transitioned to a normal approach and landing. Upon further discussion with ATC (tower and approach) this is not an uncommon occurrence. We need to do something to fix this problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-200 APCHING AGS, GA, HAS A NMAC WITH A LTT THAT DEPARTS A SMALL ADJOINING FIELD.
Narrative: WE WERE IN RADAR CTL, VECTOR HDG 120 DEGS TO INTERCEPT ILS RWY 17 APCH IN AUGUSTA, GA. WE WERE CLRED FROM 3000 FT MSL TO 2000 FT MSL, MAINTAINING 2000 FT UNTIL ESTABLISHED ON LOC RWY 17. JUST LEAVING 3000 FT WITH GEAR DOWN, WE WERE PASSING A SMALL UNCTLED ARPT (DANIEL FIELD) WHEN WE GOT A TCASII TA. SHORTLY AFTER, A TCASII RA TO CLB. SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH PULL UP, I SAW THE TFC AIRBORNE OFF DANIEL FIELD TAKING OFF NE. WE FOLLOWED THE TCASII RA AND THE TFC ACCORDING TO TCASII, GOT WITHIN 200 FT VERTLY AND EITHER PASSED DIRECTLY UNDER US, OR JUST BEHIND. WE CONTINUED AND LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. UPON TALKING TO APCH CTL SUPVR HE STATED THAT ON VFR DAYS, THAT HAS BEEN A PROB IN THE PAST. HE STATED ANYTHING SHORT OF A REGULATORY REQUIREMENT WILL NOT SOLVE THE PROB. THE TCASII WAS INVALUABLE IN THIS CASE. A LITTLE STRICTER GUIDELINES FOR VFR TKOFS OUT OF UNCTLED ARPTS WOULD BE HELPFUL ALSO. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 383326: THEN AFTER INITIATING DSCNT ON GS ANOTHER ACFT (HIGH WING TURBOPROP) TOOK OFF FROM DANIEL FIELD AND MADE A SLOW CLBING TURN TO THE NW. WE WERE ON THE LOC AND GS AT APPROX 2800-2600 FT, GEAR DOWN AND FLAPS 15 DEGS. TRANSITIONING TO FLAPS 30 DEGS WHEN WE RECEIVED A TCASII TA. I LOCATED THE TFC AND SAW A POSSIBLE CONFLICT AND INITIATED A LEVELOFF TO PREVENT A CONFLICT. SHORTLY LATER WE RECEIVED A TCASII RA AND CLB COMMAND. I INITIATED THE CLB AND DEFUSED THE SIT. THE CONFLICT ACFT PASSED WITHIN 200 FT VERTLY OFF R SIDE AND SLIGHTLY AFT. AFTER DEFUSING THE SIT WE TRANSITIONED TO A NORMAL APCH AND LNDG. UPON FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH ATC (TWR AND APCH) THIS IS NOT AN UNCOMMON OCCURRENCE. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO FIX THIS PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.