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Attributes | |
ACN | 383576 |
Time | |
Date | 199710 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pou |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 383576 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
At part 139 airports, acrs need to have fire rescue equipment on the field. At non part 139 airports, aircraft greater than 30 seats require fire rescue on the field, less than 30 seats requires that fire rescue is available. Pou is a non part 139 airport and the NOTAMS stated fire rescue was unavailable at the ETA. We interpreted it as the services at the field were inoperative and that response from surrounding fire rescue was available. This was not the case and the landing, taxi and takeoff were illegal for part 121 operations. We became aware of the situation when it was reported to our director of operations. Since most part 121 operators operate at part 139 airports, only the recent changes to part 135 scheduled operations bringing them under part 121. A training program should inform crews operating to non part 139 airports that the only fire rescue responses available are not at the airport and when service is reported as not available we are not authority/authorized to operate. Special procedures to inform those air carrier crews operating at non part 139 airports as to the requirements and restrs at these airports, to be included in the operations manual.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR BE02 FLC RPT THAT THEY MISINTERP A NOTAM FOR A NON PART 139 ARPT THAT CFR SVCS WERE UNAVAILABLE AT THEIR ETA. LATER, THEY FOUND THAT THESE SVCS ARE NOW REQUIRED FOR UNDER THE NEW PART 135 AND THE FLC STATES THAT THEY HAD NOT BEEN BRIEFED ON THESE CHANGES AFFECTING OPS AT NON PART 139 ARPTS.
Narrative: AT PART 139 ARPTS, ACRS NEED TO HAVE FIRE RESCUE EQUIP ON THE FIELD. AT NON PART 139 ARPTS, ACFT GREATER THAN 30 SEATS REQUIRE FIRE RESCUE ON THE FIELD, LESS THAN 30 SEATS REQUIRES THAT FIRE RESCUE IS AVAILABLE. POU IS A NON PART 139 ARPT AND THE NOTAMS STATED FIRE RESCUE WAS UNAVAILABLE AT THE ETA. WE INTERPED IT AS THE SVCS AT THE FIELD WERE INOP AND THAT RESPONSE FROM SURROUNDING FIRE RESCUE WAS AVAILABLE. THIS WAS NOT THE CASE AND THE LNDG, TAXI AND TKOF WERE ILLEGAL FOR PART 121 OPS. WE BECAME AWARE OF THE SIT WHEN IT WAS RPTED TO OUR DIRECTOR OF OPS. SINCE MOST PART 121 OPERATORS OPERATE AT PART 139 ARPTS, ONLY THE RECENT CHANGES TO PART 135 SCHEDULED OPS BRINGING THEM UNDER PART 121. A TRAINING PROGRAM SHOULD INFORM CREWS OPERATING TO NON PART 139 ARPTS THAT THE ONLY FIRE RESCUE RESPONSES AVAILABLE ARE NOT AT THE ARPT AND WHEN SVC IS REPORTED AS NOT AVAILABLE WE ARE NOT AUTH TO OPERATE. SPECIAL PROCS TO INFORM THOSE ACR CREWS OPERATING AT NON PART 139 ARPTS AS TO THE REQUIREMENTS AND RESTRS AT THESE ARPTS, TO BE INCLUDED IN THE OPS MANUAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.