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The captain of a widebody transport complains that there is no GS guidance available when the ILS is OTS.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 383935 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199710 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : atl |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 0 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : atl tracon : pit |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 383935 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| Navigational Aid | Unspecified |
Narrative:
Atl runway 27L is one of the busiest runways in the world. The ILS, localizer and glide path, has been OTS for a number of weeks and this runway has no VASI, PAPI or other GS aid. Except during low ceilings or poor visibility, aircraft are given the ILS to runway 27R -- sidestep to runway 27L or a visual approach to runway 27L, all while a steady stream of departures continue from runway 27R. It has become common to see long lndgs, low finals or an occasional go around. Why can't the FAA install a VASI or temporary GS to atl runway 27L before the ILS is taken OTS for an extended period?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE CAPT OF A WDB COMPLAINS THAT THERE IS NO GS GUIDANCE AVAILABLE WHEN THE ILS IS OTS.
Narrative: ATL RWY 27L IS ONE OF THE BUSIEST RWYS IN THE WORLD. THE ILS, LOC AND GLIDE PATH, HAS BEEN OTS FOR A NUMBER OF WKS AND THIS RWY HAS NO VASI, PAPI OR OTHER GS AID. EXCEPT DURING LOW CEILINGS OR POOR VISIBILITY, ACFT ARE GIVEN THE ILS TO RWY 27R -- SIDESTEP TO RWY 27L OR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 27L, ALL WHILE A STEADY STREAM OF DEPS CONTINUE FROM RWY 27R. IT HAS BECOME COMMON TO SEE LONG LNDGS, LOW FINALS OR AN OCCASIONAL GAR. WHY CAN'T THE FAA INSTALL A VASI OR TEMPORARY GS TO ATL RWY 27L BEFORE THE ILS IS TAKEN OTS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.