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A cpr HS25 flight crew had an near midair collision with a cessna that flew within 200 ft of the 3000 ft base of the class B airspace. During their RA guided evasive action they were advised of traffic at 4000 ft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 384547 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199710 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : teb |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2800 msl bound upper : 3300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | BAe 125 Series 800 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Cessna Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4300 flight time type : 2200 |
| ASRS Report | 384547 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were cleared for VOR DME a to teterboro. We were 2 mi from wanes intersection, cleared for approach at 3000 ft. We saw traffic, a cessna, passing left to right in front of us. He was sbound at between 2700 ft and 2800 ft, not a VFR or IFR altitude. As he passed below the nose of the aircraft we received an RA to climb. We climbed to 3300 ft. The controller told us we had newark traffic above us at 4000 ft. We told him we were climbing following an RA. His response was he did not care which traffic we smashed into. 2 months ago a similar situation happened in the same area to one of our company gulfstream crews. They climbed to 3900 ft which brought FAA involvement. The floor of class B airspace is 3000 ft in this area. Small aircraft flying in and out of caldwell and morristown test this ceiling in this area. They need to be at 2500 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CPR HS25 FLC HAD AN NMAC WITH A CESSNA THAT FLEW WITHIN 200 FT OF THE 3000 FT BASE OF THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. DURING THEIR RA GUIDED EVASIVE ACTION THEY WERE ADVISED OF TFC AT 4000 FT.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR VOR DME A TO TETERBORO. WE WERE 2 MI FROM WANES INTXN, CLRED FOR APCH AT 3000 FT. WE SAW TFC, A CESSNA, PASSING L TO R IN FRONT OF US. HE WAS SBOUND AT BTWN 2700 FT AND 2800 FT, NOT A VFR OR IFR ALT. AS HE PASSED BELOW THE NOSE OF THE ACFT WE RECEIVED AN RA TO CLB. WE CLBED TO 3300 FT. THE CTLR TOLD US WE HAD NEWARK TFC ABOVE US AT 4000 FT. WE TOLD HIM WE WERE CLBING FOLLOWING AN RA. HIS RESPONSE WAS HE DID NOT CARE WHICH TFC WE SMASHED INTO. 2 MONTHS AGO A SIMILAR SIT HAPPENED IN THE SAME AREA TO ONE OF OUR COMPANY GULFSTREAM CREWS. THEY CLBED TO 3900 FT WHICH BROUGHT FAA INVOLVEMENT. THE FLOOR OF CLASS B AIRSPACE IS 3000 FT IN THIS AREA. SMALL ACFT FLYING IN AND OUT OF CALDWELL AND MORRISTOWN TEST THIS CEILING IN THIS AREA. THEY NEED TO BE AT 2500 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.