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Attributes | |
ACN | 385617 |
Time | |
Date | 199711 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ric |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2400 |
ASRS Report | 385617 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 385779 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was captain and PNF of an air carrier flight on nov/thu/97. We were cleared for a visual approach to runway 34 at ric, to follow an air carrier aircraft (B727), then cleared to land by ric tower controller. We continued the landing, touched down on speed in the touchdown zone of a 9000 ft runway, then cleared to exit the runway at intersection C and taxi to the ramp. I was later notified by my carrier's flight safety department that it was reported to them there may have been an aircraft which had not yet cleared the runway when our aircraft touched down. To my knowledge, the prior landing aircraft had cleared the runway before we landed. Supplemental information from acn 385779: I was PF (first officer), ILS, ric, runway 34, IMC, CAT 1, normal landing in darkness, with landing clearance. I never looked at runway end since I did not plan to roll that far. I never saw nor had knowledge of another airplane still on the runway. Supplemental information from acn 385921: the other aircraft reported that he was still on the runway, but again, we did not see him and we were cleared to land by ric tower.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B727 LANDED WHILE ANOTHER B727 WAS STILL ON THE RWY CLRING AT THE OTHER END. THE LNDG B727 FLC DID NOT SEE THE OTHER ACFT AND WAS NOTIFIED LATER OF THE INCIDENT.
Narrative: I WAS CAPT AND PNF OF AN ACR FLT ON NOV/THU/97. WE WERE CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 34 AT RIC, TO FOLLOW AN ACR ACFT (B727), THEN CLRED TO LAND BY RIC TWR CTLR. WE CONTINUED THE LNDG, TOUCHED DOWN ON SPD IN THE TOUCHDOWN ZONE OF A 9000 FT RWY, THEN CLRED TO EXIT THE RWY AT INTXN C AND TAXI TO THE RAMP. I WAS LATER NOTIFIED BY MY CARRIER'S FLT SAFETY DEPT THAT IT WAS RPTED TO THEM THERE MAY HAVE BEEN AN ACFT WHICH HAD NOT YET CLRED THE RWY WHEN OUR ACFT TOUCHED DOWN. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE PRIOR LNDG ACFT HAD CLRED THE RWY BEFORE WE LANDED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 385779: I WAS PF (FO), ILS, RIC, RWY 34, IMC, CAT 1, NORMAL LNDG IN DARKNESS, WITH LNDG CLRNC. I NEVER LOOKED AT RWY END SINCE I DID NOT PLAN TO ROLL THAT FAR. I NEVER SAW NOR HAD KNOWLEDGE OF ANOTHER AIRPLANE STILL ON THE RWY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 385921: THE OTHER ACFT RPTED THAT HE WAS STILL ON THE RWY, BUT AGAIN, WE DID NOT SEE HIM AND WE WERE CLRED TO LAND BY RIC TWR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.