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An air carrier B727 flight crew report an encounter with 2 F14S during a SID from sju. The ARTCC radar supervisor said that they would investigate.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 386238 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199711 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : stt |
| State Reference | VI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 14500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : mjzs |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Tomcat (F14) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 386238 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : exit conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On the jetts departure we were cleared direct stt direct coy, climb maintain 17000 ft. Through 13500 ft we saw 2 F-14's climbing from below us, parallel to us. They turned left and came straight for us at our 2 O'clock position. We got no indication on TCASII so I leveled off at 14000 ft while we watched to see what they would do. Once they saw us they increased their climb and passed over us. We had zero lateral and about 500 ft vertical separation. We told san juan center about the near miss and she said she did not have them on radar, but they had a block altitude starting from FL180. A supervisor then came on and took my particulars as he was going to file a report on the incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B727 FLC RPT AN ENCOUNTER WITH 2 F14S DURING A SID FROM SJU. THE ARTCC RADAR SUPVR SAID THAT THEY WOULD INVESTIGATE.
Narrative: ON THE JETTS DEP WE WERE CLRED DIRECT STT DIRECT COY, CLB MAINTAIN 17000 FT. THROUGH 13500 FT WE SAW 2 F-14'S CLBING FROM BELOW US, PARALLEL TO US. THEY TURNED L AND CAME STRAIGHT FOR US AT OUR 2 O'CLOCK POS. WE GOT NO INDICATION ON TCASII SO I LEVELED OFF AT 14000 FT WHILE WE WATCHED TO SEE WHAT THEY WOULD DO. ONCE THEY SAW US THEY INCREASED THEIR CLB AND PASSED OVER US. WE HAD ZERO LATERAL AND ABOUT 500 FT VERT SEPARATION. WE TOLD SAN JUAN CTR ABOUT THE NEAR MISS AND SHE SAID SHE DID NOT HAVE THEM ON RADAR, BUT THEY HAD A BLOCK ALT STARTING FROM FL180. A SUPVR THEN CAME ON AND TOOK MY PARTICULARS AS HE WAS GOING TO FILE A RPT ON THE INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.