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Attributes | |
ACN | 388359 |
Time | |
Date | 199712 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mlf |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 23000 msl bound upper : 23000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Electra L-188 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 8400 flight time type : 80 |
ASRS Report | 388359 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 12000 |
ASRS Report | 388357 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
En route, above as previously listed. Center asked us to turn to a heading of 050 degrees. There was backgnd noise on his radio and he sounded harried. The captain asked me if I had heard 050 degrees, and I said yes. I think our flight engineer also said he had heard the same. Our captain called back 'roger, turning to 050 degrees.' probably 1-2 mins elapsed and center called back asking our heading, to which the captain said, '050 degrees.' the center controller said, 'fly heading 005 degrees.' again he had noise in his backgnd, but the captain acknowledged, 'turning to 005 degrees.' our flight continued uneventfully to slc. While I realize that this may seem trivial, I am very interested in flight safety. Although we were in a very low traffic area, was our controller in a high stress/noise environment? I'm concerned that either our controller misspoke himself, or we didn't hear correctly due to backgnd noise, and that if this be the case, wouldn't it be good practice to make the correction at the time we read back the heading? That is the main purpose of the readback -- to ensure mutual understanding and agreement. Again, I realize this is a minor thing, but safety is paramount and I'm anxious to do all that I can to ensure that.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A LOCKHEED ELECTRA L88 MISINTERPED AN ASSIGNED HDG BY ATC OF 050 DEGS INSTEAD OF 005 DEGS RESULTING IN ATC INTERVENTION TO CORRECT THEIR HDG. RPTRS COMPLAIN THAT ATC FAILED TO CORRECT THEIR READBACK PRIOR TO TURNING TO THE WRONG HDG.
Narrative: ENRTE, ABOVE AS PREVIOUSLY LISTED. CTR ASKED US TO TURN TO A HDG OF 050 DEGS. THERE WAS BACKGND NOISE ON HIS RADIO AND HE SOUNDED HARRIED. THE CAPT ASKED ME IF I HAD HEARD 050 DEGS, AND I SAID YES. I THINK OUR FE ALSO SAID HE HAD HEARD THE SAME. OUR CAPT CALLED BACK 'ROGER, TURNING TO 050 DEGS.' PROBABLY 1-2 MINS ELAPSED AND CTR CALLED BACK ASKING OUR HDG, TO WHICH THE CAPT SAID, '050 DEGS.' THE CTR CTLR SAID, 'FLY HDG 005 DEGS.' AGAIN HE HAD NOISE IN HIS BACKGND, BUT THE CAPT ACKNOWLEDGED, 'TURNING TO 005 DEGS.' OUR FLT CONTINUED UNEVENTFULLY TO SLC. WHILE I REALIZE THAT THIS MAY SEEM TRIVIAL, I AM VERY INTERESTED IN FLT SAFETY. ALTHOUGH WE WERE IN A VERY LOW TFC AREA, WAS OUR CTLR IN A HIGH STRESS/NOISE ENVIRONMENT? I'M CONCERNED THAT EITHER OUR CTLR MISSPOKE HIMSELF, OR WE DIDN'T HEAR CORRECTLY DUE TO BACKGND NOISE, AND THAT IF THIS BE THE CASE, WOULDN'T IT BE GOOD PRACTICE TO MAKE THE CORRECTION AT THE TIME WE READ BACK THE HDG? THAT IS THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THE READBACK -- TO ENSURE MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING AND AGREEMENT. AGAIN, I REALIZE THIS IS A MINOR THING, BUT SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT AND I'M ANXIOUS TO DO ALL THAT I CAN TO ENSURE THAT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.