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Attributes | |
ACN | 388820 |
Time | |
Date | 199712 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mem |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mem artcc : zdc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | controller radar : 17 flight time total : 1450 |
ASRS Report | 388820 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 15600 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
I was (arm) vectoring air carrier X toward the base leg, descending from 8000 ft to 3000 ft. At 4000 ft I saw that the spacing on another aircraft being worked by arf was going to be close so I left air carrier X wbound and told him about the traffic. I also informed him that he might go through the final. At which time I saw air carrier Y (arf) being vectored by arf controller. I asked arf to turn the aircraft. He informed me that air carrier Y was sebound and no factor. At the time I felt this was tight but not an operational error. 6 days later I called the facility and had to ask if I was decertified. At that time I was told I was decertified.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LOSS OF SEPARATION BTWN 2 ACR ACFT ON VECTORS BY DIFFERENT CTLRS.
Narrative: I WAS (ARM) VECTORING ACR X TOWARD THE BASE LEG, DSNDING FROM 8000 FT TO 3000 FT. AT 4000 FT I SAW THAT THE SPACING ON ANOTHER ACFT BEING WORKED BY ARF WAS GOING TO BE CLOSE SO I LEFT ACR X WBOUND AND TOLD HIM ABOUT THE TFC. I ALSO INFORMED HIM THAT HE MIGHT GO THROUGH THE FINAL. AT WHICH TIME I SAW ACR Y (ARF) BEING VECTORED BY ARF CTLR. I ASKED ARF TO TURN THE ACFT. HE INFORMED ME THAT ACR Y WAS SEBOUND AND NO FACTOR. AT THE TIME I FELT THIS WAS TIGHT BUT NOT AN OPERROR. 6 DAYS LATER I CALLED THE FACILITY AND HAD TO ASK IF I WAS DECERTIFIED. AT THAT TIME I WAS TOLD I WAS DECERTIFIED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.