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Attributes | |
ACN | 388821 |
Time | |
Date | 199712 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ard |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | HS 125 Series 700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute airway : zdc |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 10 |
ASRS Report | 388821 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft X inbound to teterboro on metropolitan 4 arrival. Pilot given a clearance to cross 15 mi southwest of ard (yardley) at 12000 ft. Controller emphasized 12000 ft since this is not the usual crossing altitude. Pilot read back 'cross 15 mi southwest of ard at 11000 ft.' this was missed by me, the controller, air carrier X even asked about the rides on the way down. I again told him that it would be a smooth ride 'on your way down to 12000 ft.' no response. Aircraft X and air carrier Y were both at 11000 ft approximately 1 mi away from each other, near as I could tell. There are severe target and data block jumps in this area due to a years-old radar sort box problem. Had I had even a remote idea as to where aircraft X was when the incident occurred (or before it occurred), I would have rechked his altitude assignment and corrected a potentially catastrophic situation from developing. Matters being such as they are, I wasn't worried about the 2 aircraft because the computer told me that even if they were at the same altitude, there was enough time to do something before separation was lost.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTED LOSS OF SEPARATION WHEN ACFT X CONFLICTS WITH ACR Y AT 11000 FT AFTER RPTR MISSED ACFT X'S INCORRECT ALT XING READBACK OF 11000 FT INSTEAD OF 12000 FT.
Narrative: ACFT X INBOUND TO TETERBORO ON METRO 4 ARR. PLT GIVEN A CLRNC TO CROSS 15 MI SW OF ARD (YARDLEY) AT 12000 FT. CTLR EMPHASIZED 12000 FT SINCE THIS IS NOT THE USUAL XING ALT. PLT READ BACK 'CROSS 15 MI SW OF ARD AT 11000 FT.' THIS WAS MISSED BY ME, THE CTLR, ACR X EVEN ASKED ABOUT THE RIDES ON THE WAY DOWN. I AGAIN TOLD HIM THAT IT WOULD BE A SMOOTH RIDE 'ON YOUR WAY DOWN TO 12000 FT.' NO RESPONSE. ACFT X AND ACR Y WERE BOTH AT 11000 FT APPROX 1 MI AWAY FROM EACH OTHER, NEAR AS I COULD TELL. THERE ARE SEVERE TARGET AND DATA BLOCK JUMPS IN THIS AREA DUE TO A YEARS-OLD RADAR SORT BOX PROB. HAD I HAD EVEN A REMOTE IDEA AS TO WHERE ACFT X WAS WHEN THE INCIDENT OCCURRED (OR BEFORE IT OCCURRED), I WOULD HAVE RECHKED HIS ALT ASSIGNMENT AND CORRECTED A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC SIT FROM DEVELOPING. MATTERS BEING SUCH AS THEY ARE, I WASN'T WORRIED ABOUT THE 2 ACFT BECAUSE THE COMPUTER TOLD ME THAT EVEN IF THEY WERE AT THE SAME ALT, THERE WAS ENOUGH TIME TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE SEPARATION WAS LOST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.