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Attributes | |
ACN | 388966 |
Time | |
Date | 199712 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hnl |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 16500 msl bound upper : 16500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhn |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Learjet 36 |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : other oceanic enroute : pacific |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : military pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 388966 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : military |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : exit conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 2000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was flying a lear jet 36 for the purpose of military training. The aircraft was equipped with an aerial, target, tow reel. The tow reel weighs 600 pounds and was carried on the left wing weapons rack. We use this setup to tow targets for military ship gunnery practice. I had just entered W-192 and checked with the ship on UHF when they told me to turn 270 degrees because they were conducting live fire to the south and east. Due to the ship's placement in the warning area and shape of the airspace, I crossed the border in VFR conditions at 16500 ft MSL. ATC contacted me later and told me I was out of the airspace, I had traffic 8 O'clock, 14500 ft climbing B747, and to turn eastbound to re-enter the airspace as soon as possible. As I turned left to east, I gained sight of the B747 and I rolled out on a parallel course sbound, to let it overtake and pass me, as our speed was 200 KIAS. I turned behind to east and re-entered the airspace. A contributing factor was the ship's positioning in the warning area and the shape of the warning area itself.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF LEAR 36 BEING USED IN MIL TRAINING HAS SPILLOUT OF W-192 AIRSPACE RESULTING IN CONFLICT WITH B747 OUTBOUND FROM HNL. TFC IS SIGHTED AND LEAR CREW MAINTAINS SEPARATION THEN RE-ENTERS THE WARNING AREA.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING A LEAR JET 36 FOR THE PURPOSE OF MIL TRAINING. THE ACFT WAS EQUIPPED WITH AN AERIAL, TARGET, TOW REEL. THE TOW REEL WEIGHS 600 LBS AND WAS CARRIED ON THE L WING WEAPONS RACK. WE USE THIS SETUP TO TOW TARGETS FOR MIL SHIP GUNNERY PRACTICE. I HAD JUST ENTERED W-192 AND CHKED WITH THE SHIP ON UHF WHEN THEY TOLD ME TO TURN 270 DEGS BECAUSE THEY WERE CONDUCTING LIVE FIRE TO THE S AND E. DUE TO THE SHIP'S PLACEMENT IN THE WARNING AREA AND SHAPE OF THE AIRSPACE, I CROSSED THE BORDER IN VFR CONDITIONS AT 16500 FT MSL. ATC CONTACTED ME LATER AND TOLD ME I WAS OUT OF THE AIRSPACE, I HAD TFC 8 O'CLOCK, 14500 FT CLBING B747, AND TO TURN EBOUND TO RE-ENTER THE AIRSPACE ASAP. AS I TURNED L TO E, I GAINED SIGHT OF THE B747 AND I ROLLED OUT ON A PARALLEL COURSE SBOUND, TO LET IT OVERTAKE AND PASS ME, AS OUR SPD WAS 200 KIAS. I TURNED BEHIND TO E AND RE-ENTERED THE AIRSPACE. A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR WAS THE SHIP'S POSITIONING IN THE WARNING AREA AND THE SHAPE OF THE WARNING AREA ITSELF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.