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Attributes | |
ACN | 389001 |
Time | |
Date | 199712 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : stl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 32 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 80 |
ASRS Report | 389001 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were cleared for the visual approach to runway 30L at stl. The first officer who was the PF, called for flaps 10 degrees. The tower cleared us to land on runway 30L, hold short of runway 24. We did not know if we had the performance figures for that, so I told the tower I would check on the hold short performance. On checking the performance, I found we could land and hold short of runway 24. Just as I was about to tell the tower, he cleared us for the visual to runway 30R, and asked us to contact the tower on 120.05. I preferred to land on runway 30L because we were already established on the approach and also we would have a shorter taxi. I told the tower controller we could land on runway 30L and hold short of runway 24 if that is what he needed. He said, 'nah, we've got something else going on here -- go to runway 30R and contact the tower on 120.05.' I accepted, and the first officer began the sidestep maneuver to runway 30R. I called the runway 30R tower and got landing clearance. As the first officer aligned himself with the runway 30R extended centerline, we encountered what seemed like wake turbulence, although the previous arrival had been 4 mi ahead of us. In addition, we started dropping below the glidepath. We had tuned in the ILS to back up the visual approach, and in spite of the first officer's attempt to maintain the glidepath, we momentarily descended about 2 dots below the GS. As I was considering a go around, the apparent wake turbulence/windshear abated and the first officer was able to get back on the glidepath. At this time we heard 'too low, gear' on the GPWS. I realized I had not heard the first officer call for 'gear down, flaps 20 degrees, before landing checklist.' I immediately extended the landing gear, configured the airplane and completed the before landing checklist. The remainder of the approach and landing were without incident. On that approach, both the first officer and myself were distracted to the point that we did not configure the aircraft for landing until we heard the GPWS warning. The first officer said he was about to make the call when we were asked to go to runway 30R. The subsequent discussion with the runway 30L tower and turbulence/shear on runway 30R further distracted him and caused him to miss the required call. As the PNF I should have been monitoring the approach more closely but I too was distracted with: 1) checking the performance for the hold short operation, 2) trying to secure runway 30L for us after the tower told us to go to runway 30R, 3) calling the runway 30R tower for landing clearance, and 4) the altitude excursion due to the turbulence/shear after alignment with runway 30R. There was a lot going on during that approach. Controllers should not make changes in runway assignment during the latter part of the final approach unless absolutely necessary. At that time runway 30L was completely clear and the controller could easily have let us land on runway 30L as originally cleared. Whatever else he had 'going on' could have waited another 2 mins. Landing aircraft after all have priority. However, notwithstanding ATC vagaries, in order to prevent my overlooking key items such as aircraft landing confign, I will consider the following: 1) follow standard procedures. Our operating procedures have us bring propeller RPM from a cruise setting to 100% as part of the before landing checklist. We started this approach high (due to our initial assigned altitude), and in order to help slow the airplane and lose altitude faster the first officer had asked for 100% RPM when we started the approach. As a result, the airplane sounded and felt like it would after the before landing checklist. This could have subconsciously caused us to miss the required callout. 2) avoid looking at performance charts while on final approach. If I am not sure of a hold short performance limit, I will simply decline the clearance rather than try to look it up on final. 3) go around if wake turbulence or windshear is affecting aircraft control. This will reduce the possibility of missing key aircraft items due to the distraction of dealing with the turbulence/shear. 4) do not allow ATC communication to interfere with the operation of the aircraft. Remember aviate, navigation, communicate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BA3200 FLC ON APCH IS ALERTED BY GPWS 'TOO LOW, GEAR.' THEY EXTEND GEAR AND COMPLETE THE LNDG.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 30L AT STL. THE FO WHO WAS THE PF, CALLED FOR FLAPS 10 DEGS. THE TWR CLRED US TO LAND ON RWY 30L, HOLD SHORT OF RWY 24. WE DID NOT KNOW IF WE HAD THE PERFORMANCE FIGURES FOR THAT, SO I TOLD THE TWR I WOULD CHK ON THE HOLD SHORT PERFORMANCE. ON CHKING THE PERFORMANCE, I FOUND WE COULD LAND AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 24. JUST AS I WAS ABOUT TO TELL THE TWR, HE CLRED US FOR THE VISUAL TO RWY 30R, AND ASKED US TO CONTACT THE TWR ON 120.05. I PREFERRED TO LAND ON RWY 30L BECAUSE WE WERE ALREADY ESTABLISHED ON THE APCH AND ALSO WE WOULD HAVE A SHORTER TAXI. I TOLD THE TWR CTLR WE COULD LAND ON RWY 30L AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 24 IF THAT IS WHAT HE NEEDED. HE SAID, 'NAH, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON HERE -- GO TO RWY 30R AND CONTACT THE TWR ON 120.05.' I ACCEPTED, AND THE FO BEGAN THE SIDESTEP MANEUVER TO RWY 30R. I CALLED THE RWY 30R TWR AND GOT LNDG CLRNC. AS THE FO ALIGNED HIMSELF WITH THE RWY 30R EXTENDED CTRLINE, WE ENCOUNTERED WHAT SEEMED LIKE WAKE TURB, ALTHOUGH THE PREVIOUS ARR HAD BEEN 4 MI AHEAD OF US. IN ADDITION, WE STARTED DROPPING BELOW THE GLIDEPATH. WE HAD TUNED IN THE ILS TO BACK UP THE VISUAL APCH, AND IN SPITE OF THE FO'S ATTEMPT TO MAINTAIN THE GLIDEPATH, WE MOMENTARILY DSNDED ABOUT 2 DOTS BELOW THE GS. AS I WAS CONSIDERING A GAR, THE APPARENT WAKE TURB/WINDSHEAR ABATED AND THE FO WAS ABLE TO GET BACK ON THE GLIDEPATH. AT THIS TIME WE HEARD 'TOO LOW, GEAR' ON THE GPWS. I REALIZED I HAD NOT HEARD THE FO CALL FOR 'GEAR DOWN, FLAPS 20 DEGS, BEFORE LNDG CHKLIST.' I IMMEDIATELY EXTENDED THE LNDG GEAR, CONFIGURED THE AIRPLANE AND COMPLETED THE BEFORE LNDG CHKLIST. THE REMAINDER OF THE APCH AND LNDG WERE WITHOUT INCIDENT. ON THAT APCH, BOTH THE FO AND MYSELF WERE DISTRACTED TO THE POINT THAT WE DID NOT CONFIGURE THE ACFT FOR LNDG UNTIL WE HEARD THE GPWS WARNING. THE FO SAID HE WAS ABOUT TO MAKE THE CALL WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO GO TO RWY 30R. THE SUBSEQUENT DISCUSSION WITH THE RWY 30L TWR AND TURB/SHEAR ON RWY 30R FURTHER DISTRACTED HIM AND CAUSED HIM TO MISS THE REQUIRED CALL. AS THE PNF I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MONITORING THE APCH MORE CLOSELY BUT I TOO WAS DISTRACTED WITH: 1) CHKING THE PERFORMANCE FOR THE HOLD SHORT OP, 2) TRYING TO SECURE RWY 30L FOR US AFTER THE TWR TOLD US TO GO TO RWY 30R, 3) CALLING THE RWY 30R TWR FOR LNDG CLRNC, AND 4) THE ALT EXCURSION DUE TO THE TURB/SHEAR AFTER ALIGNMENT WITH RWY 30R. THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON DURING THAT APCH. CTLRS SHOULD NOT MAKE CHANGES IN RWY ASSIGNMENT DURING THE LATTER PART OF THE FINAL APCH UNLESS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. AT THAT TIME RWY 30L WAS COMPLETELY CLR AND THE CTLR COULD EASILY HAVE LET US LAND ON RWY 30L AS ORIGINALLY CLRED. WHATEVER ELSE HE HAD 'GOING ON' COULD HAVE WAITED ANOTHER 2 MINS. LNDG ACFT AFTER ALL HAVE PRIORITY. HOWEVER, NOTWITHSTANDING ATC VAGARIES, IN ORDER TO PREVENT MY OVERLOOKING KEY ITEMS SUCH AS ACFT LNDG CONFIGN, I WILL CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING: 1) FOLLOW STANDARD PROCS. OUR OPERATING PROCS HAVE US BRING PROP RPM FROM A CRUISE SETTING TO 100% AS PART OF THE BEFORE LNDG CHKLIST. WE STARTED THIS APCH HIGH (DUE TO OUR INITIAL ASSIGNED ALT), AND IN ORDER TO HELP SLOW THE AIRPLANE AND LOSE ALT FASTER THE FO HAD ASKED FOR 100% RPM WHEN WE STARTED THE APCH. AS A RESULT, THE AIRPLANE SOUNDED AND FELT LIKE IT WOULD AFTER THE BEFORE LNDG CHKLIST. THIS COULD HAVE SUBCONSCIOUSLY CAUSED US TO MISS THE REQUIRED CALLOUT. 2) AVOID LOOKING AT PERFORMANCE CHARTS WHILE ON FINAL APCH. IF I AM NOT SURE OF A HOLD SHORT PERFORMANCE LIMIT, I WILL SIMPLY DECLINE THE CLRNC RATHER THAN TRY TO LOOK IT UP ON FINAL. 3) GAR IF WAKE TURB OR WINDSHEAR IS AFFECTING ACFT CTL. THIS WILL REDUCE THE POSSIBILITY OF MISSING KEY ACFT ITEMS DUE TO THE DISTR OF DEALING WITH THE TURB/SHEAR. 4) DO NOT ALLOW ATC COM TO INTERFERE WITH THE OP OF THE ACFT. REMEMBER AVIATE, NAV, COMMUNICATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.