A B727 flight crew calls for taxi clearance and is told to pass behind a taxiing DC9. They informed ground that they were blocking the ramp entrance but the DC9 continued taxi and moved to his left. Reporter did taxi his aircraft but was disturbed by how close it was.

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Attributes
ACN	389330
Time
Date	199712
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0001 To 0600
Place
Locale Reference	airport : oma
State Reference	NE
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 90
ASRS Report	389330
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground less severe other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

From our ramp we requested to taxi for takeoff. There is only 1 entrance/exit to the cargo ramp. Ground told us to pass behind an air carrier DC9. We immediately told ground that we were 'blocking the alley in the ramp,' but the DC9 continued taxiing and entered the ramp, pulling over to his right side of the ramp. There appeared to be enough room between the DC9 on the left and cargo containers on the right. It was late in my duty day. We were tired. I should have called our ramp office and asked for 2 wing walkers. I chose to taxi on my own. We didn't hit anything, but it was too close. Next time I will take the 5 mins to wait for wing walkers.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A B727 FLC CALLS FOR TAXI CLRNC AND IS TOLD TO PASS BEHIND A TAXIING DC9. THEY INFORMED GND THAT THEY WERE BLOCKING THE RAMP ENTRANCE BUT THE DC9 CONTINUED TAXI AND MOVED TO HIS L. RPTR DID TAXI HIS ACFT BUT WAS DISTURBED BY HOW CLOSE IT WAS.

Narrative: FROM OUR RAMP WE REQUESTED TO TAXI FOR TKOF. THERE IS ONLY 1 ENTRANCE/EXIT TO THE CARGO RAMP. GND TOLD US TO PASS BEHIND AN ACR DC9. WE IMMEDIATELY TOLD GND THAT WE WERE 'BLOCKING THE ALLEY IN THE RAMP,' BUT THE DC9 CONTINUED TAXIING AND ENTERED THE RAMP, PULLING OVER TO HIS R SIDE OF THE RAMP. THERE APPEARED TO BE ENOUGH ROOM BTWN THE DC9 ON THE L AND CARGO CONTAINERS ON THE R. IT WAS LATE IN MY DUTY DAY. WE WERE TIRED. I SHOULD HAVE CALLED OUR RAMP OFFICE AND ASKED FOR 2 WING WALKERS. I CHOSE TO TAXI ON MY OWN. WE DIDN'T HIT ANYTHING, BUT IT WAS TOO CLOSE. NEXT TIME I WILL TAKE THE 5 MINS TO WAIT FOR WING WALKERS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.