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Attributes | |
ACN | 389761 |
Time | |
Date | 199712 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ard airport : lga |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 115 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 389761 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Momentarily exceeded 250 KIAS below 10000 ft MSL, approximately 300 KTS at 8000 ft. The last 30 mins or so leading up to the event were eventful due to a disruptive passenger. Passenger was a foreign male. Unknown to us, he had been denied boarding on 2 previous flts to lga due to his behavior with alcohol. This was the last flight of the day to lga. The gate agent boarded this passenger still in a questionable state of sobriety, without consulting the captain, against company rules. He did however, tell the flight attendants not to serve him alcohol. Starting about 40 mins out, the head flight attendant was in and out of the cockpit continuously advising of problems with this passenger yelling at the other passenger, soliciting alcohol from other passenger, not sitting in his seat as ordered. Finally, captain directed me to go back and get him seated (he was in 1ST class). I found him in the aft galley (at rearmost part of aircraft) bothering 2 female flight attendants. I escorted him to his seat and directed him to remain seated for the remainder of the flight. He had a leg injury (was a wheelchair on/off passenger), acted strangely, possibly inebriated or on drugs, and was defiant. Mins after I returned to the cockpit and was trying to set the FMS up for the approach to runway 22 at lga, the flight attendant said he was up again and causing trouble. I went back to the cabin again, had him situation down and fastened his seat belt, and advised him that he could be arrested for such disruption to the flight crew. While on the STAR to lga, I was essentially flying solo as the captain was spending 100% of his time with company dispatcher, lga station operations, and flight attendants -- they decided to have police meet the aircraft. I was cleared to 'cross somto at or below 13000 ft and descend to 11000 ft, maintain 310 KTS or greater.' the FMS VNAV mode was programmed and the descent stopped at 13000 ft. The descent mode was then changed to flight level change and we were now cleared on down to 7000 ft. Simultaneously, our runway assignment was changed to runway 31. While trying to reprogram FMS for runway 31, and amid all the commotion and without a copilot doing any PNF duties, I noticed the speed was still about 300 KIAS while descending towards 8000 ft. I immediately and quickly corrected. The captain had no idea what was going on until we were on downwind.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO, PF, IN A B767 ALLOWS A SPD OF 300 KTS WHILE IN DSCNT TO 8000 FT. FO CITES DISTR WITH AN UNRULY PAX IN CABIN THAT INTERFERED WITH THE COCKPIT COORD.
Narrative: MOMENTARILY EXCEEDED 250 KIAS BELOW 10000 FT MSL, APPROX 300 KTS AT 8000 FT. THE LAST 30 MINS OR SO LEADING UP TO THE EVENT WERE EVENTFUL DUE TO A DISRUPTIVE PAX. PAX WAS A FOREIGN MALE. UNKNOWN TO US, HE HAD BEEN DENIED BOARDING ON 2 PREVIOUS FLTS TO LGA DUE TO HIS BEHAVIOR WITH ALCOHOL. THIS WAS THE LAST FLT OF THE DAY TO LGA. THE GATE AGENT BOARDED THIS PAX STILL IN A QUESTIONABLE STATE OF SOBRIETY, WITHOUT CONSULTING THE CAPT, AGAINST COMPANY RULES. HE DID HOWEVER, TELL THE FLT ATTENDANTS NOT TO SERVE HIM ALCOHOL. STARTING ABOUT 40 MINS OUT, THE HEAD FLT ATTENDANT WAS IN AND OUT OF THE COCKPIT CONTINUOUSLY ADVISING OF PROBS WITH THIS PAX YELLING AT THE OTHER PAX, SOLICITING ALCOHOL FROM OTHER PAX, NOT SITTING IN HIS SEAT AS ORDERED. FINALLY, CAPT DIRECTED ME TO GO BACK AND GET HIM SEATED (HE WAS IN 1ST CLASS). I FOUND HIM IN THE AFT GALLEY (AT REARMOST PART OF ACFT) BOTHERING 2 FEMALE FLT ATTENDANTS. I ESCORTED HIM TO HIS SEAT AND DIRECTED HIM TO REMAIN SEATED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FLT. HE HAD A LEG INJURY (WAS A WHEELCHAIR ON/OFF PAX), ACTED STRANGELY, POSSIBLY INEBRIATED OR ON DRUGS, AND WAS DEFIANT. MINS AFTER I RETURNED TO THE COCKPIT AND WAS TRYING TO SET THE FMS UP FOR THE APCH TO RWY 22 AT LGA, THE FLT ATTENDANT SAID HE WAS UP AGAIN AND CAUSING TROUBLE. I WENT BACK TO THE CABIN AGAIN, HAD HIM SIT DOWN AND FASTENED HIS SEAT BELT, AND ADVISED HIM THAT HE COULD BE ARRESTED FOR SUCH DISRUPTION TO THE FLC. WHILE ON THE STAR TO LGA, I WAS ESSENTIALLY FLYING SOLO AS THE CAPT WAS SPENDING 100% OF HIS TIME WITH COMPANY DISPATCHER, LGA STATION OPS, AND FLT ATTENDANTS -- THEY DECIDED TO HAVE POLICE MEET THE ACFT. I WAS CLRED TO 'CROSS SOMTO AT OR BELOW 13000 FT AND DSND TO 11000 FT, MAINTAIN 310 KTS OR GREATER.' THE FMS VNAV MODE WAS PROGRAMMED AND THE DSCNT STOPPED AT 13000 FT. THE DSCNT MODE WAS THEN CHANGED TO FLT LEVEL CHANGE AND WE WERE NOW CLRED ON DOWN TO 7000 FT. SIMULTANEOUSLY, OUR RWY ASSIGNMENT WAS CHANGED TO RWY 31. WHILE TRYING TO REPROGRAM FMS FOR RWY 31, AND AMID ALL THE COMMOTION AND WITHOUT A COPLT DOING ANY PNF DUTIES, I NOTICED THE SPD WAS STILL ABOUT 300 KIAS WHILE DSNDING TOWARDS 8000 FT. I IMMEDIATELY AND QUICKLY CORRECTED. THE CAPT HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON UNTIL WE WERE ON DOWNWIND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.