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Attributes | |
ACN | 390133 |
Time | |
Date | 199712 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mgm |
State Reference | AL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 34300 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 13000 |
ASRS Report | 390133 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 390140 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X and air carrier Y were on same frequency. Confusion occurred over clearance from FL350 to FL240. We read back clearance and started descent when we were told it was for air carrier Y. Like- sounding call signs and controller not listening to readback allowed problem to occur. Supplemental information from acn 390140: descent to FL240 was given and acknowledged by captain -- no reply from ATC. At 34300 ft ATC told us to return to 35000 ft and that the clearance was for another aircraft. Apparently we both acknowledged the descent clearance and blocked each other out. When ATC didn't reply we assumed the clearance was given, we acknowledged and that was that. I began the descent.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLC ACKNOWLEDGED ARTCC CTLR CLRNC FOR DSCNT THAT WAS FOR ANOTHER ACR, WITH SIMILAR SOUNDING CALL SIGN. APPARENTLY, ATC DID NOT HEAR BOTH ACR'S ACKNOWLEDGMENT. ACFT RETURNED TO ASSIGNED ALT AND PROCEEDED TO DEST WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT.
Narrative: ACR X AND ACR Y WERE ON SAME FREQ. CONFUSION OCCURRED OVER CLRNC FROM FL350 TO FL240. WE READ BACK CLRNC AND STARTED DSCNT WHEN WE WERE TOLD IT WAS FOR ACR Y. LIKE- SOUNDING CALL SIGNS AND CTLR NOT LISTENING TO READBACK ALLOWED PROB TO OCCUR. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 390140: DSCNT TO FL240 WAS GIVEN AND ACKNOWLEDGED BY CAPT -- NO REPLY FROM ATC. AT 34300 FT ATC TOLD US TO RETURN TO 35000 FT AND THAT THE CLRNC WAS FOR ANOTHER ACFT. APPARENTLY WE BOTH ACKNOWLEDGED THE DSCNT CLRNC AND BLOCKED EACH OTHER OUT. WHEN ATC DIDN'T REPLY WE ASSUMED THE CLRNC WAS GIVEN, WE ACKNOWLEDGED AND THAT WAS THAT. I BEGAN THE DSCNT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.