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Attributes | |
ACN | 393052 |
Time | |
Date | 199802 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 39n |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna Single Piston Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 5 flight time total : 150 flight time type : 66 |
ASRS Report | 393052 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 900 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While practicing lndgs at a non twred airport, I contributed to what I believe is termed a 'runway incursion.' the event was inadvertent and not deliberate. I took off in my rented piper warrior after a cessna ahead of me had taken off. We both stayed in the pattern, making left traffic. The downwind, base, and final legs were uneventful, and I believed that I was maintaining sufficient horizontal spacing between us. By the time I had turned onto final, the cessna appeared to be close to the runway threshold. As I crossed the runway threshold, the aircraft ahead of me appeared to be taxiing opposite an exit ramp well past mid-field. I believed that by the time I touched down, the other aircraft would be clear of the runway. As I performed by flare-out, I concentrated on my immediate surroundings. I landed short enough to exit the runway at the first available ramp so that I could return for another takeoff and landing. When I touched, however, I noticed that the cessna was still taxiing on the runway. The cessna pilot noticed that I had landed behind him and objected on the unicom frequency. I apologized as I exited the runway. We were never closer than 800 ft or 900 ft from each other, and I don't believe there was any real danger of us colliding. In my opinion, the cessna did not expedite its departure from the runway. However, I'll admit there are at least two things I should have done to avoid the situation. I should have performed s-turns on final to increase the horizontal distance between us, and I should have performed a go around before flaring out since the other aircraft was not clear of the runway. I've learned my lesson.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF PA28 PRACTICING TKOF AND LNDGS BEHIND A CESSNA LANDS PRIOR TO THE CESSNA CLRING THE RWY.
Narrative: WHILE PRACTICING LNDGS AT A NON TWRED ARPT, I CONTRIBUTED TO WHAT I BELIEVE IS TERMED A 'RWY INCURSION.' THE EVENT WAS INADVERTENT AND NOT DELIBERATE. I TOOK OFF IN MY RENTED PIPER WARRIOR AFTER A CESSNA AHEAD OF ME HAD TAKEN OFF. WE BOTH STAYED IN THE PATTERN, MAKING L TFC. THE DOWNWIND, BASE, AND FINAL LEGS WERE UNEVENTFUL, AND I BELIEVED THAT I WAS MAINTAINING SUFFICIENT HORIZ SPACING BTWN US. BY THE TIME I HAD TURNED ONTO FINAL, THE CESSNA APPEARED TO BE CLOSE TO THE RWY THRESHOLD. AS I CROSSED THE RWY THRESHOLD, THE ACFT AHEAD OF ME APPEARED TO BE TAXIING OPPOSITE AN EXIT RAMP WELL PAST MID-FIELD. I BELIEVED THAT BY THE TIME I TOUCHED DOWN, THE OTHER ACFT WOULD BE CLR OF THE RWY. AS I PERFORMED BY FLARE-OUT, I CONCENTRATED ON MY IMMEDIATE SURROUNDINGS. I LANDED SHORT ENOUGH TO EXIT THE RWY AT THE FIRST AVAILABLE RAMP SO THAT I COULD RETURN FOR ANOTHER TKOF AND LNDG. WHEN I TOUCHED, HOWEVER, I NOTICED THAT THE CESSNA WAS STILL TAXIING ON THE RWY. THE CESSNA PLT NOTICED THAT I HAD LANDED BEHIND HIM AND OBJECTED ON THE UNICOM FREQ. I APOLOGIZED AS I EXITED THE RWY. WE WERE NEVER CLOSER THAN 800 FT OR 900 FT FROM EACH OTHER, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY REAL DANGER OF US COLLIDING. IN MY OPINION, THE CESSNA DID NOT EXPEDITE ITS DEP FROM THE RWY. HOWEVER, I'LL ADMIT THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO THINGS I SHOULD HAVE DONE TO AVOID THE SIT. I SHOULD HAVE PERFORMED S-TURNS ON FINAL TO INCREASE THE HORIZ DISTANCE BTWN US, AND I SHOULD HAVE PERFORMED A GAR BEFORE FLARING OUT SINCE THE OTHER ACFT WAS NOT CLR OF THE RWY. I'VE LEARNED MY LESSON.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.