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Attributes | |
ACN | 393254 |
Time | |
Date | 199802 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pos |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sju |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Route In Use | enroute : other oceanic |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 185 flight time total : 13500 flight time type : 1750 |
ASRS Report | 393254 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was the first officer and PNF on first leg of a charter from miami to ttpp. The aircraft a B747-100 was close to maximum landing weight about 578000 pounds (actual) and 25 degrees of flap. It was nighttime, the WX good, more than 7 mi visibility and the wind calm. We were cleared to land on runway 10. The captain flew the ILS to the runway. All parameters were normal. About 800 ft sink rate the most I saw. At the threshold he was on bug speed. As the flight engineer called out the ht above runway 100 ft -- 50 ft, the captain flared but the aircraft did not and the aircraft landed harder than usual. Aircraft did not deviate from centerline, but continued down the runway. Upon command flaps were retracted and all indications were normal. Flap indicators read zero and no lights. But on postflt, right inbound flaps were found partially extended and damage to the canoe was sustained. Aircraft was grounded at that time. The whole crew had commercial (deadhead) to miami to start the trip from different cities. On arrival to port of spain, we were already on duty 12 hours for a flight that took 3 1/2 hours with a second leg of 5 1/2 hours to go. Crews should not start a trip without proper rest so commercialling a crew into trips should be banned.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF B747-100 MAKES A HARD LNDG RESULTING IN FLAP DAMAGE.
Narrative: I WAS THE FO AND PNF ON FIRST LEG OF A CHARTER FROM MIAMI TO TTPP. THE ACFT A B747-100 WAS CLOSE TO MAX LNDG WT ABOUT 578000 LBS (ACTUAL) AND 25 DEGS OF FLAP. IT WAS NIGHTTIME, THE WX GOOD, MORE THAN 7 MI VISIBILITY AND THE WIND CALM. WE WERE CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 10. THE CAPT FLEW THE ILS TO THE RWY. ALL PARAMETERS WERE NORMAL. ABOUT 800 FT SINK RATE THE MOST I SAW. AT THE THRESHOLD HE WAS ON BUG SPD. AS THE FE CALLED OUT THE HT ABOVE RWY 100 FT -- 50 FT, THE CAPT FLARED BUT THE ACFT DID NOT AND THE ACFT LANDED HARDER THAN USUAL. ACFT DID NOT DEVIATE FROM CTRLINE, BUT CONTINUED DOWN THE RWY. UPON COMMAND FLAPS WERE RETRACTED AND ALL INDICATIONS WERE NORMAL. FLAP INDICATORS READ ZERO AND NO LIGHTS. BUT ON POSTFLT, R INBOUND FLAPS WERE FOUND PARTIALLY EXTENDED AND DAMAGE TO THE CANOE WAS SUSTAINED. ACFT WAS GROUNDED AT THAT TIME. THE WHOLE CREW HAD COMMERCIAL (DEADHEAD) TO MIAMI TO START THE TRIP FROM DIFFERENT CITIES. ON ARR TO PORT OF SPAIN, WE WERE ALREADY ON DUTY 12 HRS FOR A FLT THAT TOOK 3 1/2 HRS WITH A SECOND LEG OF 5 1/2 HRS TO GO. CREWS SHOULD NOT START A TRIP WITHOUT PROPER REST SO COMMERCIALLING A CREW INTO TRIPS SHOULD BE BANNED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.