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Attributes | |
ACN | 393368 |
Time | |
Date | 199802 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 393368 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 330 |
ASRS Report | 393369 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were given an intercept heading for the runway 14R localizer and handed off to ord approach, who then cleared us for the approach. After we were established on the localizer, we were handed off to monitor tower. We were given a couple of speed reductions by tower and cleared to land. We elected to do a CAT ii monitored approach with the autoplt coupled. We had received a beautiful intercept for the localizer, and a 30 mi final. The autoplt performed to perfection. TCASII showed that both our traffic ahead and behind us was at least 5 mi away. The latest touchdown RVR tower issued was slightly above our minimums of 1200 ft (rollout RVR was much higher). Ground contact was noted at 200 ft radio altitude and the sequence flashers were acquired at 150 ft. The rest of the approach lights were acquired almost immediately and the runway itself was in view by 110 ft radio altitude (our decision ht). We landed approximately 2000 ft down the runway and turned left off the runway at T6. The touchdown area of the runway where we landed, appeared clear and no unusual radio xmissions were heard on approach, tower, or ground. A few hours later, we were informed by dispatch and then the ord flight office that the proceeding arrival to our landing at ord had been an air carrier B727 that had 'crash landed' off to the right side of runway 14R. Supplemental information from acn 393369: we became aware that another aircraft had possibly had a problem on landing when a passenger asked about the airplane that was evacing. We thought that it must have landed behind us but a few hours later we learned that it had landed ahead of us. Supplemental information from acn 393709: later in the day, we learned that an air carrier B727 had apparently crashed before us on that same runway, approximately 2 mins prior to our landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR B727 LANDED RWY 14R WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE THAT THE PRECEDING ACFT HAD CRASH LANDED SHORT OF AND TO THE SIDE OF THE SAME RWY.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN AN INTERCEPT HDG FOR THE RWY 14R LOC AND HANDED OFF TO ORD APCH, WHO THEN CLRED US FOR THE APCH. AFTER WE WERE ESTABLISHED ON THE LOC, WE WERE HANDED OFF TO MONITOR TWR. WE WERE GIVEN A COUPLE OF SPD REDUCTIONS BY TWR AND CLRED TO LAND. WE ELECTED TO DO A CAT II MONITORED APCH WITH THE AUTOPLT COUPLED. WE HAD RECEIVED A BEAUTIFUL INTERCEPT FOR THE LOC, AND A 30 MI FINAL. THE AUTOPLT PERFORMED TO PERFECTION. TCASII SHOWED THAT BOTH OUR TFC AHEAD AND BEHIND US WAS AT LEAST 5 MI AWAY. THE LATEST TOUCHDOWN RVR TWR ISSUED WAS SLIGHTLY ABOVE OUR MINIMUMS OF 1200 FT (ROLLOUT RVR WAS MUCH HIGHER). GND CONTACT WAS NOTED AT 200 FT RADIO ALT AND THE SEQUENCE FLASHERS WERE ACQUIRED AT 150 FT. THE REST OF THE APCH LIGHTS WERE ACQUIRED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AND THE RWY ITSELF WAS IN VIEW BY 110 FT RADIO ALT (OUR DECISION HT). WE LANDED APPROX 2000 FT DOWN THE RWY AND TURNED L OFF THE RWY AT T6. THE TOUCHDOWN AREA OF THE RWY WHERE WE LANDED, APPEARED CLR AND NO UNUSUAL RADIO XMISSIONS WERE HEARD ON APCH, TWR, OR GND. A FEW HRS LATER, WE WERE INFORMED BY DISPATCH AND THEN THE ORD FLT OFFICE THAT THE PROCEEDING ARR TO OUR LNDG AT ORD HAD BEEN AN ACR B727 THAT HAD 'CRASH LANDED' OFF TO THE R SIDE OF RWY 14R. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 393369: WE BECAME AWARE THAT ANOTHER ACFT HAD POSSIBLY HAD A PROB ON LNDG WHEN A PAX ASKED ABOUT THE AIRPLANE THAT WAS EVACING. WE THOUGHT THAT IT MUST HAVE LANDED BEHIND US BUT A FEW HRS LATER WE LEARNED THAT IT HAD LANDED AHEAD OF US. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 393709: LATER IN THE DAY, WE LEARNED THAT AN ACR B727 HAD APPARENTLY CRASHED BEFORE US ON THAT SAME RWY, APPROX 2 MINS PRIOR TO OUR LNDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.