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Attributes | |
ACN | 393470 |
Time | |
Date | 199802 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 4350 flight time type : 220 |
ASRS Report | 393470 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared by the tower to use the full length of runway 25R at lax and hold short of the runway. The captain taxied to the end but inadvertently taxied past the hold short line by about 5 ft. The aircraft preceding us was already on the takeoff roll and arrs were using runway 25L so there was no conflict. I feel that the wet pavement made the hold short markings hard for the captain to see. When it became apparent that he was going to cross the line I called it to his attention but by the time we stopped we were already about 5 ft beyond the hold short line.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR LGT CROSSES THE HOLD LINE FOR RWY 25R AT LAX, AT NIGHT, IN THE RAIN.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED BY THE TWR TO USE THE FULL LENGTH OF RWY 25R AT LAX AND HOLD SHORT OF THE RWY. THE CAPT TAXIED TO THE END BUT INADVERTENTLY TAXIED PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE BY ABOUT 5 FT. THE ACFT PRECEDING US WAS ALREADY ON THE TKOF ROLL AND ARRS WERE USING RWY 25L SO THERE WAS NO CONFLICT. I FEEL THAT THE WET PAVEMENT MADE THE HOLD SHORT MARKINGS HARD FOR THE CAPT TO SEE. WHEN IT BECAME APPARENT THAT HE WAS GOING TO CROSS THE LINE I CALLED IT TO HIS ATTN BUT BY THE TIME WE STOPPED WE WERE ALREADY ABOUT 5 FT BEYOND THE HOLD SHORT LINE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.