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Attributes | |
ACN | 397167 |
Time | |
Date | 199803 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pmd |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 18000 msl bound upper : 23000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla tower : mco |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 397167 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
ZLA cleared us to cross 20 DME east of pmd VOR at FL180. I made 3 unsuccessful attempts to put this point on the FMS, as we started to descend. ATC asked if we were going to make the FL180 crossing altitude when I realized, with the help of the first officer, that either the ATC clearance was very late, or I did not come down fast enough. We crossed approximately 5000 ft high at FL230. If the fault was an unreasonable request from ATC, what can I say. However, it was more likely than not my fault. Situational awareness and FMS fixation seem to have caught me with my guard down. I have to be ready to down grade the automation in high traffic areas more quickly as well as be more attentive. After I landed in burbank I wrote the first side of this report. It is now the next day and after a good night's sleep I am reflecting again on what went wrong. I am looking at the lynxx seven arrival into burbank and it dawns on me that I briefed the ILS runway 8 into burbank but I never briefed the STAR. I punched it into the FMS before I left memphis but for some reason I really did not examine the STAR. I don't think I even had the constraints pictified on the nd (navigational display). As best as I can remember we almost missed the 13000 ft restr over pmd and the 8000 ft restr over janny. I am sure we hit those, but ATC might have another view. The more I think about this the more discouraged I get. As far as I know there were no traffic conflicts or reroutes of other aircraft, but the potential for serious mishap is very obvious to me. Most of my time is spent teaching in the simulator and giving check rides in the simulator to other pilots. When I fly the line I am going to have to be more focused on the task at hand. I will definitely be a more attentive pilot from now on. I will be remembering this experience for a long time. I only hope I did not screw up ZLA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF WDB CARGO FLT FAILS TO MAKE THE XING RESTR ON AN ARR RTE. THEY ARE QUERIED BY ATC PRIOR TO MISSING.
Narrative: ZLA CLRED US TO CROSS 20 DME E OF PMD VOR AT FL180. I MADE 3 UNSUCCESSFUL ATTEMPTS TO PUT THIS POINT ON THE FMS, AS WE STARTED TO DSND. ATC ASKED IF WE WERE GOING TO MAKE THE FL180 XING ALT WHEN I REALIZED, WITH THE HELP OF THE FO, THAT EITHER THE ATC CLRNC WAS VERY LATE, OR I DID NOT COME DOWN FAST ENOUGH. WE CROSSED APPROX 5000 FT HIGH AT FL230. IF THE FAULT WAS AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST FROM ATC, WHAT CAN I SAY. HOWEVER, IT WAS MORE LIKELY THAN NOT MY FAULT. SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AND FMS FIXATION SEEM TO HAVE CAUGHT ME WITH MY GUARD DOWN. I HAVE TO BE READY TO DOWN GRADE THE AUTOMATION IN HIGH TFC AREAS MORE QUICKLY AS WELL AS BE MORE ATTENTIVE. AFTER I LANDED IN BURBANK I WROTE THE FIRST SIDE OF THIS RPT. IT IS NOW THE NEXT DAY AND AFTER A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP I AM REFLECTING AGAIN ON WHAT WENT WRONG. I AM LOOKING AT THE LYNXX SEVEN ARR INTO BURBANK AND IT DAWNS ON ME THAT I BRIEFED THE ILS RWY 8 INTO BURBANK BUT I NEVER BRIEFED THE STAR. I PUNCHED IT INTO THE FMS BEFORE I LEFT MEMPHIS BUT FOR SOME REASON I REALLY DID NOT EXAMINE THE STAR. I DON'T THINK I EVEN HAD THE CONSTRAINTS PICTIFIED ON THE ND (NAVIGATIONAL DISPLAY). AS BEST AS I CAN REMEMBER WE ALMOST MISSED THE 13000 FT RESTR OVER PMD AND THE 8000 FT RESTR OVER JANNY. I AM SURE WE HIT THOSE, BUT ATC MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER VIEW. THE MORE I THINK ABOUT THIS THE MORE DISCOURAGED I GET. AS FAR AS I KNOW THERE WERE NO TFC CONFLICTS OR REROUTES OF OTHER ACFT, BUT THE POTENTIAL FOR SERIOUS MISHAP IS VERY OBVIOUS TO ME. MOST OF MY TIME IS SPENT TEACHING IN THE SIMULATOR AND GIVING CHK RIDES IN THE SIMULATOR TO OTHER PLTS. WHEN I FLY THE LINE I AM GOING TO HAVE TO BE MORE FOCUSED ON THE TASK AT HAND. I WILL DEFINITELY BE A MORE ATTENTIVE PLT FROM NOW ON. I WILL BE REMEMBERING THIS EXPERIENCE FOR A LONG TIME. I ONLY HOPE I DID NOT SCREW UP ZLA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.