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Captain of an medium large transport made a climbing turn to avoid a sighted pitts aircraft doing an aerobatics maneuver during descent for landing at 15 mi out at 3500 ft. Since the pitts was not showing a transponder return, ATC did not observe the pitts before the reporter which also caused reporter to not have a TCASII warning.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 397499 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199803 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : swf |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Christen (& Pitts) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 7300 flight time type : 1200 |
| ASRS Report | 397499 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1300 vertical : 100 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Descending into swf. Ny approach issued traffic alert, and we picked up a red pitts flying an aerobatic maneuver. PF made a climbing left turn to evade the pitts. The maneuver was successful and we proceeded to swf. Ny approach noted that the pitts had no transponder and did not see it until just before we did. Since pitts did not have a transponder, no TCASII alert was given.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN MLG MADE A CLBING TURN TO AVOID A SIGHTED PITTS ACFT DOING AN AEROBATICS MANEUVER DURING DSCNT FOR LNDG AT 15 MI OUT AT 3500 FT. SINCE THE PITTS WAS NOT SHOWING A XPONDER RETURN, ATC DID NOT OBSERVE THE PITTS BEFORE THE RPTR WHICH ALSO CAUSED RPTR TO NOT HAVE A TCASII WARNING.
Narrative: DSNDING INTO SWF. NY APCH ISSUED TFC ALERT, AND WE PICKED UP A RED PITTS FLYING AN AEROBATIC MANEUVER. PF MADE A CLBING L TURN TO EVADE THE PITTS. THE MANEUVER WAS SUCCESSFUL AND WE PROCEEDED TO SWF. NY APCH NOTED THAT THE PITTS HAD NO XPONDER AND DID NOT SEE IT UNTIL JUST BEFORE WE DID. SINCE PITTS DID NOT HAVE A XPONDER, NO TCASII ALERT WAS GIVEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.