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An atx freighter pilot flying a C402 operates into an airport where the WX was reported to be IMC, but the pilot canceled his IFR clearance when he saw the airport. Minutes later, he departed and picked up his clearance from the surprised controller.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 397830 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199803 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : orl |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Cessna 402/402C/B379 Businessliner/Utiliner |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff landing other other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 400 |
| ASRS Report | 397830 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I flew into orl (which was uncontrolled at XA30). Approach said ceilings were 500 ft broken. So I shot the back course runway 25. From the east of the airport, there were no ceilings at all. I canceled my IFR at 1000 ft and landed VFR. After leaving my freight, I taxied for departure, only 2 mins from when I shot the VFR approach. I tried to contact orl approach on 124.03 for IFR takeoff clearance, but no one would answer. Since it was VFR, I departed to the west and contacted approach at 400 ft on climb out. At 1000 ft, the controller answered 'I don't even want to know how you did that.' he then asked what altitude I was. I answered 1300 ft. After a min he gave me clearance to tpa and said I should not make a habit of what I did, and that (that airport) was IFR. I told him I had got out through a hole. I should have told him more, that it was VFR where I had taken off. Instead of giving a PIREP, which might have explained and even helped other pilots, I was shocked by the controller's tone enough that I just wanted to keep shut and not argue and get to my destination. After I had arrived at my destination I wished I would have voiced my flight conditions. After all, I was in them and that controller wasn't. I also think the controller should have handled himself better. He was probably having a bad morning. This same controller flew me right through the localizer of the back course.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ATX FREIGHTER PLT FLYING A C402 OPERATES INTO AN ARPT WHERE THE WX WAS RPTED TO BE IMC, BUT THE PLT CANCELED HIS IFR CLRNC WHEN HE SAW THE ARPT. MINUTES LATER, HE DEPARTED AND PICKED UP HIS CLRNC FROM THE SURPRISED CTLR.
Narrative: I FLEW INTO ORL (WHICH WAS UNCTLED AT XA30). APCH SAID CEILINGS WERE 500 FT BROKEN. SO I SHOT THE BACK COURSE RWY 25. FROM THE E OF THE ARPT, THERE WERE NO CEILINGS AT ALL. I CANCELED MY IFR AT 1000 FT AND LANDED VFR. AFTER LEAVING MY FREIGHT, I TAXIED FOR DEP, ONLY 2 MINS FROM WHEN I SHOT THE VFR APCH. I TRIED TO CONTACT ORL APCH ON 124.03 FOR IFR TKOF CLRNC, BUT NO ONE WOULD ANSWER. SINCE IT WAS VFR, I DEPARTED TO THE W AND CONTACTED APCH AT 400 FT ON CLBOUT. AT 1000 FT, THE CTLR ANSWERED 'I DON'T EVEN WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU DID THAT.' HE THEN ASKED WHAT ALT I WAS. I ANSWERED 1300 FT. AFTER A MIN HE GAVE ME CLRNC TO TPA AND SAID I SHOULD NOT MAKE A HABIT OF WHAT I DID, AND THAT (THAT ARPT) WAS IFR. I TOLD HIM I HAD GOT OUT THROUGH A HOLE. I SHOULD HAVE TOLD HIM MORE, THAT IT WAS VFR WHERE I HAD TAKEN OFF. INSTEAD OF GIVING A PIREP, WHICH MIGHT HAVE EXPLAINED AND EVEN HELPED OTHER PLTS, I WAS SHOCKED BY THE CTLR'S TONE ENOUGH THAT I JUST WANTED TO KEEP SHUT AND NOT ARGUE AND GET TO MY DEST. AFTER I HAD ARRIVED AT MY DEST I WISHED I WOULD HAVE VOICED MY FLT CONDITIONS. AFTER ALL, I WAS IN THEM AND THAT CTLR WASN'T. I ALSO THINK THE CTLR SHOULD HAVE HANDLED HIMSELF BETTER. HE WAS PROBABLY HAVING A BAD MORNING. THIS SAME CTLR FLEW ME RIGHT THROUGH THE LOC OF THE BACK COURSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.