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Attributes | |
ACN | 398046 |
Time | |
Date | 199803 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dbq |
State Reference | IA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 31000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | B747-100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 398046 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 3200 |
ASRS Report | 397906 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Approximately 50 mi southeast of dubuque VOR, we were attempting to deviate through a line of thunderstorms. We were approaching a lighter area we observed on radar, but as we approached what we thought to be the best way through, we encountered turbulence of a nature to make altitude control questionable. As it worsened, we began to lose radio contact with the ATC controller. We transmitted that we were turning, first to the south, then to the east, as it did not appear safe to continue. The southerly change in course did not take us clear of the severe WX, so essentially we turned the aircraft back to the east, with a 180 degree change in course. The controller eventually established radio contact again, and he had to change our altitude as well as another aircraft's altitude as our new course created a conflict. We were then vectored back to the north and eventually found a hole adequate to deviate through, and continued wbound. The controller was disturbed with us, as we were not able to communicate to him our intentions, which is understandable. However, with WX severe enough to totally disrupt radio xmissions as well as turbulence severe enough to impact control of the aircraft, continuing ahead did not seem prudent. Although we understood our clearance at the time to deviate as necessary, our turn was unexpected. Had we been able to communicate, I think coordination of our required course reversal could have been achieved without disruption.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B727 FLC DEVIATED FROM THEIR ASSIGNED HDG WITHOUT AUTH BECAUSE OF WX AND TURB. THE FLC WAS TEMPORARILY UNABLE TO MAINTAIN RADIO CONTACT BECAUSE OF INTERFERENCE AND FREQ CONGESTION. THE DEV CREATED A TFC CONFLICT.
Narrative: APPROX 50 MI SE OF DUBUQUE VOR, WE WERE ATTEMPTING TO DEVIATE THROUGH A LINE OF TSTMS. WE WERE APCHING A LIGHTER AREA WE OBSERVED ON RADAR, BUT AS WE APCHED WHAT WE THOUGHT TO BE THE BEST WAY THROUGH, WE ENCOUNTERED TURB OF A NATURE TO MAKE ALT CTL QUESTIONABLE. AS IT WORSENED, WE BEGAN TO LOSE RADIO CONTACT WITH THE ATC CTLR. WE XMITTED THAT WE WERE TURNING, FIRST TO THE S, THEN TO THE E, AS IT DID NOT APPEAR SAFE TO CONTINUE. THE SOUTHERLY CHANGE IN COURSE DID NOT TAKE US CLR OF THE SEVERE WX, SO ESSENTIALLY WE TURNED THE ACFT BACK TO THE E, WITH A 180 DEG CHANGE IN COURSE. THE CTLR EVENTUALLY ESTABLISHED RADIO CONTACT AGAIN, AND HE HAD TO CHANGE OUR ALT AS WELL AS ANOTHER ACFT'S ALT AS OUR NEW COURSE CREATED A CONFLICT. WE WERE THEN VECTORED BACK TO THE N AND EVENTUALLY FOUND A HOLE ADEQUATE TO DEVIATE THROUGH, AND CONTINUED WBOUND. THE CTLR WAS DISTURBED WITH US, AS WE WERE NOT ABLE TO COMMUNICATE TO HIM OUR INTENTIONS, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE. HOWEVER, WITH WX SEVERE ENOUGH TO TOTALLY DISRUPT RADIO XMISSIONS AS WELL AS TURB SEVERE ENOUGH TO IMPACT CTL OF THE ACFT, CONTINUING AHEAD DID NOT SEEM PRUDENT. ALTHOUGH WE UNDERSTOOD OUR CLRNC AT THE TIME TO DEVIATE AS NECESSARY, OUR TURN WAS UNEXPECTED. HAD WE BEEN ABLE TO COMMUNICATE, I THINK COORD OF OUR REQUIRED COURSE REVERSAL COULD HAVE BEEN ACHIEVED WITHOUT DISRUPTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.