37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 398243 |
Time | |
Date | 199803 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : w66 |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | other personnel other oversight : supervisor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 1560 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 398243 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 32 flight time total : 32 flight time type : 32 |
ASRS Report | 397947 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other non adherence : far other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Student pilot was on a solo flight in the local practice area and decided that he would practice takeoffs and lndgs at W66 without a logbook endorsement, but he also didn't have either his medical or logbook in his possession at this time. I myself was already flying at the time with another student and I did not dispatch him. On the landing roll the student went off the side of the runway in which he then returned the aircraft back onto the runway and shut down. My student called another instructor and they both determined the airplane safe for flight and proceeded back to manassas, va. Upon their arrival, I lectured student for even flying in the first place and then advised him that we would need remedial training. After the student left, the airplane was dispatched again without being inspected. The flight school requires an inspection as a 141 program. As a result of this matter, I stepped down as chief pilot. I was not even around when the student was dispatched or when the incident occurred in which the airplane did not receive any damage. Supplemental information from acn 397947: failed to retrieve my logbook and medical from my training folder. After departure, I proceeded to the practice area to work on maneuvers. After the maneuvers, I tried to perform a touch-and-go at an airport I wasn't signed off to go to. During the rollout phase of the flight, the plane was blown off the left side of the runway and rolled through the soft grass and mud. I protected the nose gear by configuring the aircraft for a soft field landing. Once I slowed down, I steered onto the runway then proceeded via the taxiway to the runup area. Here, I contacted an instructor who was in the area (monitoring the unicom). I should have not gone to the airport in the first place. I should have not been under the assumption that I could. Supplemental information from acn 397835: I was flying with a student nearby and heard on the radio that the solo pilot wanted me to look at the aircraft. When I got to W66 the plane was on the taxiway and appeared in good condition. I sent my own student (properly endorsed) back to our home base of hef (manassas, va) and returned home in the solo student's aircraft with him. Maintenance inspected the aircraft and found no damage that would cause an unsafe condition. Apparently the aircraft had been in an 'unusual' situation by exiting the hard surfaced runway and was not to be flown without a certified mechanic looking at the aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A STUDENT PLT DISPATCHES HIMSELF TO AN UNAUTH ARPT OF OP AND RUNS OFF THE RWY DURING LNDG. ANOTHER ACFT'S INSTRUCTOR PLT LANDS, CHKS ACFT AND GOES WITH STUDENT PLT BACK TO HOME BASE. AGAIN, THE ACFT IS NOT INSPECTED BY A MECH AND THEN IS FLOWN IN TRAINING. CHIEF PLT STEPS DOWN FROM POS AT FLYING SCHOOL.
Narrative: STUDENT PLT WAS ON A SOLO FLT IN THE LCL PRACTICE AREA AND DECIDED THAT HE WOULD PRACTICE TKOFS AND LNDGS AT W66 WITHOUT A LOGBOOK ENDORSEMENT, BUT HE ALSO DIDN'T HAVE EITHER HIS MEDICAL OR LOGBOOK IN HIS POSSESSION AT THIS TIME. I MYSELF WAS ALREADY FLYING AT THE TIME WITH ANOTHER STUDENT AND I DID NOT DISPATCH HIM. ON THE LNDG ROLL THE STUDENT WENT OFF THE SIDE OF THE RWY IN WHICH HE THEN RETURNED THE ACFT BACK ONTO THE RWY AND SHUT DOWN. MY STUDENT CALLED ANOTHER INSTRUCTOR AND THEY BOTH DETERMINED THE AIRPLANE SAFE FOR FLT AND PROCEEDED BACK TO MANASSAS, VA. UPON THEIR ARR, I LECTURED STUDENT FOR EVEN FLYING IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THEN ADVISED HIM THAT WE WOULD NEED REMEDIAL TRAINING. AFTER THE STUDENT LEFT, THE AIRPLANE WAS DISPATCHED AGAIN WITHOUT BEING INSPECTED. THE FLT SCHOOL REQUIRES AN INSPECTION AS A 141 PROGRAM. AS A RESULT OF THIS MATTER, I STEPPED DOWN AS CHIEF PLT. I WAS NOT EVEN AROUND WHEN THE STUDENT WAS DISPATCHED OR WHEN THE INCIDENT OCCURRED IN WHICH THE AIRPLANE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY DAMAGE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 397947: FAILED TO RETRIEVE MY LOGBOOK AND MEDICAL FROM MY TRAINING FOLDER. AFTER DEP, I PROCEEDED TO THE PRACTICE AREA TO WORK ON MANEUVERS. AFTER THE MANEUVERS, I TRIED TO PERFORM A TOUCH-AND-GO AT AN ARPT I WASN'T SIGNED OFF TO GO TO. DURING THE ROLLOUT PHASE OF THE FLT, THE PLANE WAS BLOWN OFF THE L SIDE OF THE RWY AND ROLLED THROUGH THE SOFT GRASS AND MUD. I PROTECTED THE NOSE GEAR BY CONFIGURING THE ACFT FOR A SOFT FIELD LNDG. ONCE I SLOWED DOWN, I STEERED ONTO THE RWY THEN PROCEEDED VIA THE TXWY TO THE RUNUP AREA. HERE, I CONTACTED AN INSTRUCTOR WHO WAS IN THE AREA (MONITORING THE UNICOM). I SHOULD HAVE NOT GONE TO THE ARPT IN THE FIRST PLACE. I SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT I COULD. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 397835: I WAS FLYING WITH A STUDENT NEARBY AND HEARD ON THE RADIO THAT THE SOLO PLT WANTED ME TO LOOK AT THE ACFT. WHEN I GOT TO W66 THE PLANE WAS ON THE TXWY AND APPEARED IN GOOD CONDITION. I SENT MY OWN STUDENT (PROPERLY ENDORSED) BACK TO OUR HOME BASE OF HEF (MANASSAS, VA) AND RETURNED HOME IN THE SOLO STUDENT'S ACFT WITH HIM. MAINT INSPECTED THE ACFT AND FOUND NO DAMAGE THAT WOULD CAUSE AN UNSAFE CONDITION. APPARENTLY THE ACFT HAD BEEN IN AN 'UNUSUAL' SIT BY EXITING THE HARD SURFACED RWY AND WAS NOT TO BE FLOWN WITHOUT A CERTIFIED MECH LOOKING AT THE ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.