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Flight crew of CL65 on vectors for the ILS unable to make contact with approach for turn inbound. ATC and flight crew were stepping on each other's communications.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 399709 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199804 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mia |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2400 |
| ASRS Report | 399709 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 2900 flight time type : 575 |
| ASRS Report | 400410 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While being vectored to the ILS on runway 12 at mia, we passed through the localizer. We kept trying to call the controller. Apparently, at the same time, he was calling us. The result was that we blocked each other out! He told us do not worry about it and we were vectored to runway 9R for landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF CL65 ON VECTORS FOR THE ILS UNABLE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH APCH FOR TURN INBOUND. ATC AND FLC WERE STEPPING ON EACH OTHER'S COMS.
Narrative: WHILE BEING VECTORED TO THE ILS ON RWY 12 AT MIA, WE PASSED THROUGH THE LOC. WE KEPT TRYING TO CALL THE CTLR. APPARENTLY, AT THE SAME TIME, HE WAS CALLING US. THE RESULT WAS THAT WE BLOCKED EACH OTHER OUT! HE TOLD US DO NOT WORRY ABOUT IT AND WE WERE VECTORED TO RWY 9R FOR LNDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.