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Attributes | |
ACN | 400188 |
Time | |
Date | 199804 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : slc |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : slc tower : yvr |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude other other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 400188 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
During climb out the #3 engine fire warning system activated. Fire bell was canceled, and the engineer noted that it activated when he opened the #3 bleed air valves. He closed the valves and all fire indications ceased. We completed our checklist -- the fire test system tested normally, and we returned to slc with the #3 engine running, but at idle thrust. We landed uneventfully, stopped on a high speed taxiway, and asked the fire department to confirm that there were no fire indications. After they said none was visible, we returned to the gate. Maintenance found the start valve (#3 engine) failed approximately 25% open, and as a result the starter was destroyed prior to our fire indication. Thus, when the #3 bleed air valves were opened, bleed air was vented into the engine cowling causing the warning. Because the start valve partially closed, the engineer did see a duct pressure rise when the start switch was released.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A COMMERCIAL FIXED WING LGT DURING CLBOUT AT 8000 FT DECLARED AN EMER AND DIVERTED DUE TO A #3 ENG FIRE WARNING CAUSED BY A FAILED ENG STARTER VALVE DUMPING PNEUMATIC AIR INTO THE COWLING.
Narrative: DURING CLBOUT THE #3 ENG FIRE WARNING SYS ACTIVATED. FIRE BELL WAS CANCELED, AND THE ENGINEER NOTED THAT IT ACTIVATED WHEN HE OPENED THE #3 BLEED AIR VALVES. HE CLOSED THE VALVES AND ALL FIRE INDICATIONS CEASED. WE COMPLETED OUR CHKLIST -- THE FIRE TEST SYS TESTED NORMALLY, AND WE RETURNED TO SLC WITH THE #3 ENG RUNNING, BUT AT IDLE THRUST. WE LANDED UNEVENTFULLY, STOPPED ON A HIGH SPD TXWY, AND ASKED THE FIRE DEPT TO CONFIRM THAT THERE WERE NO FIRE INDICATIONS. AFTER THEY SAID NONE WAS VISIBLE, WE RETURNED TO THE GATE. MAINT FOUND THE START VALVE (#3 ENG) FAILED APPROX 25% OPEN, AND AS A RESULT THE STARTER WAS DESTROYED PRIOR TO OUR FIRE INDICATION. THUS, WHEN THE #3 BLEED AIR VALVES WERE OPENED, BLEED AIR WAS VENTED INTO THE ENG COWLING CAUSING THE WARNING. BECAUSE THE START VALVE PARTIALLY CLOSED, THE ENGINEER DID SEE A DUCT PRESSURE RISE WHEN THE START SWITCH WAS RELEASED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.