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Attributes | |
ACN | 400332 |
Time | |
Date | 199804 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bwi |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 100 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad tracon : dca tracon : bwi |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 85 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 20000 |
ASRS Report | 400332 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 1715 |
ASRS Report | 400044 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency other other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
A thunderstorm moved rapidly across the field at bwi as we were on final approach. We could clearly see the runway, but at 100 ft, visibility went to zero with heavy rain and windshear. First officer executed a missed approach and ATC vectored us for another approach. Tower reported windshears of 50 KTS and captain decided to go to iad, our alternate. Part way there, iad approach said they were not accepting approachs due to heavy thunderstorm. At this point, since WX was between us and our other alternate, ric, and since fuel was down to 17000 pounds, and since dca was in the clear, we diverted to dca. Approach and landing was normal at dca. During flight from ord-bwi, ATC gave us a rerte quite far south, and extensive vectoring, including considerable time wbound burning considerable fuel. ACARS terminal WX showed no problems at bwi, iad, dca or ric. When we got into the washington area, the thunderstorms we could see looked small and did not paint much on radar. Traffic landed at bwi approximately 4-5 mins ahead of us. The thunderstorms intensified rapidly and moved rapidly to arrive when we did -- thus the diversion. I'm not sure what could have prevented this, forecasts did not call for thunderstorms on our arrival, though they were known to be in the area. Had we known earlier how fast they were moving, we would have been better prepared and could have chosen a better alternate. Until WX forecasting and dissemination is better, we may have to expect a deviation like this. Even the ATIS at bwi did not indicate a problem before our approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF DC10 ENCOUNTERS TSTMS AND IS UNABLE TO LAND AT DEST ARPT. WHEN ATTEMPTING TO GO TO THEIR ALTERNATE WX AGAIN IMPACTS THE ARRS. THEY DECLARE LOW FUEL AND DIVERT TO DCA.
Narrative: A TSTM MOVED RAPIDLY ACROSS THE FIELD AT BWI AS WE WERE ON FINAL APCH. WE COULD CLRLY SEE THE RWY, BUT AT 100 FT, VISIBILITY WENT TO ZERO WITH HVY RAIN AND WINDSHEAR. FO EXECUTED A MISSED APCH AND ATC VECTORED US FOR ANOTHER APCH. TWR RPTED WINDSHEARS OF 50 KTS AND CAPT DECIDED TO GO TO IAD, OUR ALTERNATE. PART WAY THERE, IAD APCH SAID THEY WERE NOT ACCEPTING APCHS DUE TO HVY TSTM. AT THIS POINT, SINCE WX WAS BTWN US AND OUR OTHER ALTERNATE, RIC, AND SINCE FUEL WAS DOWN TO 17000 LBS, AND SINCE DCA WAS IN THE CLR, WE DIVERTED TO DCA. APCH AND LNDG WAS NORMAL AT DCA. DURING FLT FROM ORD-BWI, ATC GAVE US A RERTE QUITE FAR S, AND EXTENSIVE VECTORING, INCLUDING CONSIDERABLE TIME WBOUND BURNING CONSIDERABLE FUEL. ACARS TERMINAL WX SHOWED NO PROBS AT BWI, IAD, DCA OR RIC. WHEN WE GOT INTO THE WASHINGTON AREA, THE TSTMS WE COULD SEE LOOKED SMALL AND DID NOT PAINT MUCH ON RADAR. TFC LANDED AT BWI APPROX 4-5 MINS AHEAD OF US. THE TSTMS INTENSIFIED RAPIDLY AND MOVED RAPIDLY TO ARRIVE WHEN WE DID -- THUS THE DIVERSION. I'M NOT SURE WHAT COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS, FORECASTS DID NOT CALL FOR TSTMS ON OUR ARR, THOUGH THEY WERE KNOWN TO BE IN THE AREA. HAD WE KNOWN EARLIER HOW FAST THEY WERE MOVING, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER PREPARED AND COULD HAVE CHOSEN A BETTER ALTERNATE. UNTIL WX FORECASTING AND DISSEMINATION IS BETTER, WE MAY HAVE TO EXPECT A DEV LIKE THIS. EVEN THE ATIS AT BWI DID NOT INDICATE A PROB BEFORE OUR APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.