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Attributes | |
ACN | 400340 |
Time | |
Date | 199804 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lgb |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1600 msl bound upper : 1600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sna tower : lgb |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-8 63 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : profile descent arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 400340 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 80 |
ASRS Report | 400082 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On apr/xa/98 during the approach phase to runway 30 at lgb, a near miss occurred between my DC8 and a C172. The cessna crossed from east to west across my direction of flight at the same altitude of 1600 ft MSL near the becca NDB. My aircraft was on localizer and intercepting the GS and cleared for the approach by socal approach. Approach warned of traffic at 12-1 O'clock, same altitude. Upon seeing the traffic, I increased the descent to pass below the cessna. I estimated the vertical separation to be 200-300 ft. Upon landing, I called the tower to get any information available on the cessna and was advised (via phone) by the tower operator that the other aircraft was utilizing runway 25L, had partial radio, and when the tower heard the cessna pilot, advised he was going to turn south and then re-enter the pattern for runway 25L. There was a conflict possibility since we had just come up on the tower's screen. He immediately called approach to warn of the problem. The heads up reaction by tower calling approach helped in this situation only being a near miss. The tower operator also told me that he saw the near miss from his position and verified the vertical separation of 200-300 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC8-63 ACFT ON APCH HAD NMAC WITH A C172 WHO WAS HAVING COM DIFFICULTY. TWR HAD TRIED TO CONTACT THE CESSNA, BUT UNABLE. AS A RESULT, IT FLEW ACROSS THE PATH OF THE DC8. RPTR CAPT PUSHED OVER TO FLY UNDER THE CESSNA.
Narrative: ON APR/XA/98 DURING THE APCH PHASE TO RWY 30 AT LGB, A NEAR MISS OCCURRED BTWN MY DC8 AND A C172. THE CESSNA CROSSED FROM E TO W ACROSS MY DIRECTION OF FLT AT THE SAME ALT OF 1600 FT MSL NEAR THE BECCA NDB. MY ACFT WAS ON LOC AND INTERCEPTING THE GS AND CLRED FOR THE APCH BY SOCAL APCH. APCH WARNED OF TFC AT 12-1 O'CLOCK, SAME ALT. UPON SEEING THE TFC, I INCREASED THE DSCNT TO PASS BELOW THE CESSNA. I ESTIMATED THE VERT SEPARATION TO BE 200-300 FT. UPON LNDG, I CALLED THE TWR TO GET ANY INFO AVAILABLE ON THE CESSNA AND WAS ADVISED (VIA PHONE) BY THE TWR OPERATOR THAT THE OTHER ACFT WAS UTILIZING RWY 25L, HAD PARTIAL RADIO, AND WHEN THE TWR HEARD THE CESSNA PLT, ADVISED HE WAS GOING TO TURN S AND THEN RE-ENTER THE PATTERN FOR RWY 25L. THERE WAS A CONFLICT POSSIBILITY SINCE WE HAD JUST COME UP ON THE TWR'S SCREEN. HE IMMEDIATELY CALLED APCH TO WARN OF THE PROB. THE HEADS UP REACTION BY TWR CALLING APCH HELPED IN THIS SIT ONLY BEING A NEAR MISS. THE TWR OPERATOR ALSO TOLD ME THAT HE SAW THE NEAR MISS FROM HIS POS AND VERIFIED THE VERT SEPARATION OF 200-300 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.