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Attributes | |
ACN | 400393 |
Time | |
Date | 199804 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dts |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream III |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-3/Dakota/Skytrain |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 7100 |
ASRS Report | 400393 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The location was dts, destin, fl, time XA30 local. I was taxiing the airplane for takeoff, maneuvering through the parking ramp when we felt a small bump. I stopped the plane's taxi to investigate the cause of the bump. The captain asked me to shut down the left engine in order to open the cabin door to make a visual inspection of the plane. Captain returned and informed me that we had scraped the wingtip. He said to start the APU and shut down the right engine. After shutting both engines down and starting the APU, I deplaned in order to see. After walking around the plane I took note of the nosewheel and the taxiway marking. The wheels were straddling the center line of the taxiway. I also noted that the nose of the other aircraft was over the dashed taxi clearance lines. After looking I returned to the plane to retrieve my camera and to inform the passenger of our status. Linemen informed the FBO, and a mechanic came to inspect the wingtip. He said that we had no damage, only a paint scrape. He also noted the damage to the dc-3 that was bumped. I have taken pictures of our aircraft position, the position of the other aircraft in our proximity, damage to the dc-3, and the wingtip of our gulfstream III. After the mechanic cleared our aircraft of any structural damage, we proceeded with flight to home base. Once there the plane was inspected again by ai and director of aviation was notified by phone. I do not mean to quibble about the congested ramp, and in retrospect I wish we had gotten wing walkers. I do feel that all space between the dashed taxi lines should be kept clear, it did appear to be from our cockpit, until we were walking on the ramp. This incident is waiting on so many of our small airports, I do not have any solution. It is worse at night at small airports, maybe limits to wing span should be listed for all airports? Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that the DC3 was several ft over the taxiway line and even though his aircraft was within the lines it was near the width limits. The DC3 received a dent and tear in the fuselage nose section and only paint damage to the reporter's G3. He further stated that both crew members were typed in the G3 and checked out as capts. However, he was considered the captain on this leg of the trip and was therefore in the left pilot seat taxiing the aircraft. He further stated, and reiterated, that many small airports in which they fly with the G3 do not, in many instances, have sufficient room in which to taxi and miss fences, trees, and parked aircraft and do not have aircraft width limits noted in, or on, airport information publications.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF A GULF STREAM III (G3), STRUCK THE R WING TIP ON THE NOSE OF A PARKED DC3 CAUSING ONLY A PAINT SCRAPE TO THE G3, BUT A DENT AND SKIN TEAR ON THE FUSELAGE OF THE DC3. THE G3 WAS TAXIING BETWEEN THE TXWY DASHED LINES AND THE DC3 NOSE WAS PROTRUDING TWO OR THREE FT OVER THE LINE IN TO THE TXWY.
Narrative: THE LOCATION WAS DTS, DESTIN, FL, TIME XA30 LOCAL. I WAS TAXIING THE AIRPLANE FOR TKOF, MANEUVERING THROUGH THE PARKING RAMP WHEN WE FELT A SMALL BUMP. I STOPPED THE PLANE'S TAXI TO INVESTIGATE THE CAUSE OF THE BUMP. THE CAPT ASKED ME TO SHUT DOWN THE L ENGINE IN ORDER TO OPEN THE CABIN DOOR TO MAKE A VISUAL INSPECTION OF THE PLANE. CAPT RETURNED AND INFORMED ME THAT WE HAD SCRAPED THE WINGTIP. HE SAID TO START THE APU AND SHUT DOWN THE R ENGINE. AFTER SHUTTING BOTH ENGINES DOWN AND STARTING THE APU, I DEPLANED IN ORDER TO SEE. AFTER WALKING AROUND THE PLANE I TOOK NOTE OF THE NOSEWHEEL AND THE TXWY MARKING. THE WHEELS WERE STRADDLING THE CENTER LINE OF THE TXWY. I ALSO NOTED THAT THE NOSE OF THE OTHER ACFT WAS OVER THE DASHED TAXI CLRNC LINES. AFTER LOOKING I RETURNED TO THE PLANE TO RETRIEVE MY CAMERA AND TO INFORM THE PAX OF OUR STATUS. LINEMEN INFORMED THE FBO, AND A MECHANIC CAME TO INSPECT THE WINGTIP. HE SAID THAT WE HAD NO DAMAGE, ONLY A PAINT SCRAPE. HE ALSO NOTED THE DAMAGE TO THE DC-3 THAT WAS BUMPED. I HAVE TAKEN PICTURES OF OUR ACFT POSITION, THE POSITION OF THE OTHER ACFT IN OUR PROXIMITY, DAMAGE TO THE DC-3, AND THE WINGTIP OF OUR GULFSTREAM III. AFTER THE MECHANIC CLRED OUR ACFT OF ANY STRUCTURAL DAMAGE, WE PROCEEDED WITH FLT TO HOME BASE. ONCE THERE THE PLANE WAS INSPECTED AGAIN BY AI AND DIRECTOR OF AVIATION WAS NOTIFIED BY PHONE. I DO NOT MEAN TO QUIBBLE ABOUT THE CONGESTED RAMP, AND IN RETROSPECT I WISH WE HAD GOTTEN WING WALKERS. I DO FEEL THAT ALL SPACE BETWEEN THE DASHED TAXI LINES SHOULD BE KEPT CLR, IT DID APPEAR TO BE FROM OUR COCKPIT, UNTIL WE WERE WALKING ON THE RAMP. THIS INCIDENT IS WAITING ON SO MANY OF OUR SMALL ARPTS, I DO NOT HAVE ANY SOLUTION. IT IS WORSE AT NIGHT AT SMALL ARPTS, MAYBE LIMITS TO WING SPAN SHOULD BE LISTED FOR ALL ARPTS? CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT THE DC3 WAS SEVERAL FT OVER THE TXWY LINE AND EVEN THOUGH HIS ACFT WAS WITHIN THE LINES IT WAS NEAR THE WIDTH LIMITS. THE DC3 RECEIVED A DENT AND TEAR IN THE FUSELAGE NOSE SECTION AND ONLY PAINT DAMAGE TO THE RPTR'S G3. HE FURTHER STATED THAT BOTH CREW MEMBERS WERE TYPED IN THE G3 AND CHECKED OUT AS CAPTS. HOWEVER, HE WAS CONSIDERED THE CAPT ON THIS LEG OF THE TRIP AND WAS THEREFORE IN THE L PLT SEAT TAXIING THE ACFT. HE FURTHER STATED, AND REITERATED, THAT MANY SMALL ARPTS IN WHICH THEY FLY WITH THE G3 DO NOT, IN MANY INSTANCES, HAVE SUFFICIENT ROOM IN WHICH TO TAXI AND MISS FENCES, TREES, AND PARKED ACFT AND DO NOT HAVE ACFT WIDTH LIMITS NOTED IN, OR ON, ARPT INFORMATION PUBLICATIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.