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Flight crew of a gulfstream ii (G2), failed to stop sufficiently short of another active runway during taxi for takeoff causing a twin cessna taking off to pass within 20 ft of the gulfstream. A verbal exchange between the tower and the twin cessna pilot ensued after passing. The gulfstream flight crew believed that they had properly held short, but because of their large aircraft and the narrow size of the runway, the cessna pilot did not think so.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 402553 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199805 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : pwk |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : cvg |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Gulfstream II |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Cessna Twin Piston Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 45 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 402553 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 20 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were cleared to taxi to runway 16 from the FBO and to hold short of runway 24. We taxied down runway 30 and stopped short of runway 24 and were close due to the size of the runways. A twin cessna departed runway 24 and passed within about 20 ft of our gulfstream-ii and there was considerable dialogue between the twin cessna and the tower regarding the proximity of both aircraft to one another.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A GULFSTREAM II (G2), FAILED TO STOP SUFFICIENTLY SHORT OF ANOTHER ACTIVE RWY DURING TAXI FOR TKOF CAUSING A TWIN CESSNA TAKING OFF TO PASS WITHIN 20 FT OF THE GULFSTREAM. A VERBAL EXCHANGE BTWN THE TWR AND THE TWIN CESSNA PLT ENSUED AFTER PASSING. THE GULFSTREAM FLC BELIEVED THAT THEY HAD PROPERLY HELD SHORT, BUT BECAUSE OF THEIR LARGE ACFT AND THE NARROW SIZE OF THE RWY, THE CESSNA PLT DID NOT THINK SO.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI TO RWY 16 FROM THE FBO AND TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 24. WE TAXIED DOWN RWY 30 AND STOPPED SHORT OF RWY 24 AND WERE CLOSE DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE RWYS. A TWIN CESSNA DEPARTED RWY 24 AND PASSED WITHIN ABOUT 20 FT OF OUR GULFSTREAM-II AND THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE DIALOGUE BTWN THE TWIN CESSNA AND THE TWR REGARDING THE PROX OF BOTH ACFT TO ONE ANOTHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.