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Attributes | |
ACN | 402971 |
Time | |
Date | 199805 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iah |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iah |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR 42 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 1700 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 402971 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 4000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The captain was flying (with the autoplt engaged) and we were on a left downwind for runway 27 at iah at 6000 ft with an assigned airspeed of 210 KTS. The controller asked us if we had the field in sight and when the captain nodded I replied we did. The controller cleared us for a visual approach and instructed us to cross the marker (6 DME) at or below 2000 ft. (This meant that there was traffic departing runway 14L that would be making a left turnout to the north.) he also informed us that we were number one for the approach which told me that there would be other traffic (probably more than one aircraft) on the localizer behind us at an unknown distance. While I was reading back the approach clearance the captain turned the heading bug (set at 27 degrees of bank) left to 360 degrees and set a vertical speed down of 2000 FPM. I noted that we were only 8.5 DME and when I finished talking to the controller said 'this is going to be really tight.' it was obvious that we could not make the crossing restr with this descent rate but I assumed that the captain would increase the descent rate to comply. We were almost at 360 degrees and it was too late to turn back right to give us more space as it would turn us directly outbound on the localizer into the traffic that was supposed to follow us in (continuing north is not an option as it would take us into the localizer for the parallel approach runway 26). A 3000 FPM descent down to 2000 ft is not safe in my opinion but since we could not turn back right or continue north, it was our only option to avoid blowing the crossing restr. The controller must also have noticed that we had begun our inbound turn too tight and said 'I need you at 2000 ft at the marker.' (meaning to me that there must actually be northbound traffic turning left from runway 14L.) the captain called for the visual approach checklist and I initiated it. While I was running the checklist I noticed that the captain had not increased our descent rate but instead had stopped turning left (at 360 degrees) in order to give us more time to descend. I stopped running the checklist to warn him that the localizer was coming in fast. At this point the controller said 'traffic is a B737 at 2 O'clock on the parallel and I need you to cross the marker at 2000 ft.' we were still doing over 200 KTS (being unable to slow down in the descent) and I guess the captain was concentrating on the crossing restr and not the B737 because he started to turn right instead of left. I immediately said 'no, turn left, turn left, he's right there!' and at the same time we got a TCASII alert. I put my hand on the yoke at the same time I said this so I could disconnect the autoplt and fly the plane myself if the captain did not immediately turn left or in case we needed more than 27 degrees of bank. He did turn left immediately and as we began our turn I saw the B737 approximately 1/2 to 1 mi to our right. We had been turning directly into him and probably doing about 80 KTS faster. As our heading reached 270 degrees and we were moving safely away from the B737, the controller said twice, 'turn left 180 degrees immediately!' the captain started a left turn and I said 'we have the traffic and runway in sight.' the controller cleared us again for runway 27. Now we were on a heading of about 200 degrees below 1500 ft doing 200 KTS. I said 'we're not going to make runway 27' but didn't want to call for a go around on this heading because we would climb into the traffic from runway 14L. So I decided to wait until we were aligned with the runway and then call for the go around. During the turn the captain brought the nose up and started configuring the aircraft. He did get it configured in time so I didn't call for the go around and we landed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN ATR 42-500 OVERSHOT FINAL DUE TO BEING TOO HIGH AND TO OBTAIN MORE DISTANCE NEEDED TO DSND TO ASSIGNED APCH ALT. THE CAPT FLEW THROUGH LOC TOWARD THE OTHER PARALLEL RWY CAUSING THE CTLR TO INTERVENE AND ASK FOR A 180 DEG TURN BACK TO FINAL. THE CAPT WHILE MAKING THE TURN ALSO SLOWED THE ACFT AND SUBSEQUENTLY MADE A SUCCESSFUL LNDG.
Narrative: THE CAPT WAS FLYING (WITH THE AUTOPLT ENGAGED) AND WE WERE ON A L DOWNWIND FOR RWY 27 AT IAH AT 6000 FT WITH AN ASSIGNED AIRSPD OF 210 KTS. THE CTLR ASKED US IF WE HAD THE FIELD IN SIGHT AND WHEN THE CAPT NODDED I REPLIED WE DID. THE CTLR CLRED US FOR A VISUAL APCH AND INSTRUCTED US TO CROSS THE MARKER (6 DME) AT OR BELOW 2000 FT. (THIS MEANT THAT THERE WAS TFC DEPARTING RWY 14L THAT WOULD BE MAKING A L TURNOUT TO THE N.) HE ALSO INFORMED US THAT WE WERE NUMBER ONE FOR THE APCH WHICH TOLD ME THAT THERE WOULD BE OTHER TFC (PROBABLY MORE THAN ONE ACFT) ON THE LOC BEHIND US AT AN UNKNOWN DISTANCE. WHILE I WAS READING BACK THE APCH CLRNC THE CAPT TURNED THE HDG BUG (SET AT 27 DEGS OF BANK) L TO 360 DEGS AND SET A VERT SPD DOWN OF 2000 FPM. I NOTED THAT WE WERE ONLY 8.5 DME AND WHEN I FINISHED TALKING TO THE CTLR SAID 'THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY TIGHT.' IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT WE COULD NOT MAKE THE XING RESTR WITH THIS DSCNT RATE BUT I ASSUMED THAT THE CAPT WOULD INCREASE THE DSCNT RATE TO COMPLY. WE WERE ALMOST AT 360 DEGS AND IT WAS TOO LATE TO TURN BACK R TO GIVE US MORE SPACE AS IT WOULD TURN US DIRECTLY OUTBOUND ON THE LOC INTO THE TFC THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW US IN (CONTINUING N IS NOT AN OPTION AS IT WOULD TAKE US INTO THE LOC FOR THE PARALLEL APCH RWY 26). A 3000 FPM DSCNT DOWN TO 2000 FT IS NOT SAFE IN MY OPINION BUT SINCE WE COULD NOT TURN BACK R OR CONTINUE N, IT WAS OUR ONLY OPTION TO AVOID BLOWING THE XING RESTR. THE CTLR MUST ALSO HAVE NOTICED THAT WE HAD BEGUN OUR INBOUND TURN TOO TIGHT AND SAID 'I NEED YOU AT 2000 FT AT THE MARKER.' (MEANING TO ME THAT THERE MUST ACTUALLY BE NBOUND TFC TURNING L FROM RWY 14L.) THE CAPT CALLED FOR THE VISUAL APCH CHKLIST AND I INITIATED IT. WHILE I WAS RUNNING THE CHKLIST I NOTICED THAT THE CAPT HAD NOT INCREASED OUR DSCNT RATE BUT INSTEAD HAD STOPPED TURNING L (AT 360 DEGS) IN ORDER TO GIVE US MORE TIME TO DSND. I STOPPED RUNNING THE CHKLIST TO WARN HIM THAT THE LOC WAS COMING IN FAST. AT THIS POINT THE CTLR SAID 'TFC IS A B737 AT 2 O'CLOCK ON THE PARALLEL AND I NEED YOU TO CROSS THE MARKER AT 2000 FT.' WE WERE STILL DOING OVER 200 KTS (BEING UNABLE TO SLOW DOWN IN THE DSCNT) AND I GUESS THE CAPT WAS CONCENTRATING ON THE XING RESTR AND NOT THE B737 BECAUSE HE STARTED TO TURN R INSTEAD OF L. I IMMEDIATELY SAID 'NO, TURN L, TURN L, HE'S RIGHT THERE!' AND AT THE SAME TIME WE GOT A TCASII ALERT. I PUT MY HAND ON THE YOKE AT THE SAME TIME I SAID THIS SO I COULD DISCONNECT THE AUTOPLT AND FLY THE PLANE MYSELF IF THE CAPT DID NOT IMMEDIATELY TURN L OR IN CASE WE NEEDED MORE THAN 27 DEGS OF BANK. HE DID TURN L IMMEDIATELY AND AS WE BEGAN OUR TURN I SAW THE B737 APPROX 1/2 TO 1 MI TO OUR R. WE HAD BEEN TURNING DIRECTLY INTO HIM AND PROBABLY DOING ABOUT 80 KTS FASTER. AS OUR HDG REACHED 270 DEGS AND WE WERE MOVING SAFELY AWAY FROM THE B737, THE CTLR SAID TWICE, 'TURN L 180 DEGS IMMEDIATELY!' THE CAPT STARTED A L TURN AND I SAID 'WE HAVE THE TFC AND RWY IN SIGHT.' THE CTLR CLRED US AGAIN FOR RWY 27. NOW WE WERE ON A HDG OF ABOUT 200 DEGS BELOW 1500 FT DOING 200 KTS. I SAID 'WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE RWY 27' BUT DIDN'T WANT TO CALL FOR A GAR ON THIS HDG BECAUSE WE WOULD CLB INTO THE TFC FROM RWY 14L. SO I DECIDED TO WAIT UNTIL WE WERE ALIGNED WITH THE RWY AND THEN CALL FOR THE GAR. DURING THE TURN THE CAPT BROUGHT THE NOSE UP AND STARTED CONFIGURING THE ACFT. HE DID GET IT CONFIGURED IN TIME SO I DIDN'T CALL FOR THE GAR AND WE LANDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.