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Attributes | |
ACN | 410404 |
Time | |
Date | 199808 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4600 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg tower : oak |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 165 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 4157 |
ASRS Report | 410404 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Navigational Aid | Unspecified |
Narrative:
Vectored to final ILS runway 18L (cvg) outside of baire intersection (approximately 14 DME at 5000 ft MSL). Cleared for ILS runway 18L approach. Localizer capture confirmed with raw data. Both navaids idented. Passing approximately 4600 ft MSL, on glide path, was instructed to level at 5000 ft MSL, with no explanation, followed shortly by a turn to 090 degrees saying we were 'well west' of course. This was a surprise to us! Subsequent approach was uneventful. Upon exiting aircraft talked to oncoming crew and they had experienced large fluctuations in the runway 18L localizer earlier. Wrote up compass system as a check and for insurance. Nothing noted on TCASII and no indication of conflict. 'Atta boy' to approach controller. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that he suspects that the cvg runway 18L localizer is giving problems since he had a good identify and strong signal. He did say that the aircraft compass system had experienced minor heading problems on earlier legs of his flight so he had written up the system for maintenance to examine. However, since other crew members with other aircraft had experienced difficulty also with the same localizer, he reported the difficulty also to his company chief pilot. He also heard that the airport was shutting down runway 18L for maintenance, but did not know if the action was related to the navigational localizer aid.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MD88 WAS ADVISED BY APCH CTLR THAT THEY WERE SHOWN W OF LOC FOR CVG RWY 18L AND WAS THE REASON THAT A 90 DEG TURN WAS GIVEN TO THEM. THIS WAS A COMPLETE SURPRISE TO THEM SINCE THEIR LOC NEEDLE WAS CTRED, ALTHOUGH 13 DME OUT. SUBSEQUENTLY ON THE GND, OTHER CREWS RPTED PAST DIFFICULTIES NOTED WITH THE SAME NAVAID.
Narrative: VECTORED TO FINAL ILS RWY 18L (CVG) OUTSIDE OF BAIRE INTXN (APPROX 14 DME AT 5000 FT MSL). CLRED FOR ILS RWY 18L APCH. LOC CAPTURE CONFIRMED WITH RAW DATA. BOTH NAVAIDS IDENTED. PASSING APPROX 4600 FT MSL, ON GLIDE PATH, WAS INSTRUCTED TO LEVEL AT 5000 FT MSL, WITH NO EXPLANATION, FOLLOWED SHORTLY BY A TURN TO 090 DEGS SAYING WE WERE 'WELL W' OF COURSE. THIS WAS A SURPRISE TO US! SUBSEQUENT APCH WAS UNEVENTFUL. UPON EXITING ACFT TALKED TO ONCOMING CREW AND THEY HAD EXPERIENCED LARGE FLUCTUATIONS IN THE RWY 18L LOC EARLIER. WROTE UP COMPASS SYS AS A CHK AND FOR INSURANCE. NOTHING NOTED ON TCASII AND NO INDICATION OF CONFLICT. 'ATTA BOY' TO APCH CTLR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT HE SUSPECTS THAT THE CVG RWY 18L LOC IS GIVING PROBS SINCE HE HAD A GOOD IDENT AND STRONG SIGNAL. HE DID SAY THAT THE ACFT COMPASS SYS HAD EXPERIENCED MINOR HEADING PROBS ON EARLIER LEGS OF HIS FLT SO HE HAD WRITTEN UP THE SYS FOR MAINT TO EXAMINE. HOWEVER, SINCE OTHER CREW MEMBERS WITH OTHER ACFT HAD EXPERIENCED DIFFICULTY ALSO WITH THE SAME LOC, HE RPTED THE DIFFICULTY ALSO TO HIS COMPANY CHIEF PLT. HE ALSO HEARD THAT THE ARPT WAS SHUTTING DOWN RWY 18L FOR MAINT, BUT DID NOT KNOW IF THE ACTION WAS RELATED TO THE NAVIGATIONAL LOC AID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.