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Attributes | |
ACN | 410410 |
Time | |
Date | 199808 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : oak |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 410410 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 410426 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Before we taxied out for takeoff, we discovered a mechanical problem and returned to the ramp. Our maintenance found the problem and indicated less than 1 hour to repair. We had 4 jump seaters that were listed on the weight and balance. They chose to deplane for another flight. After the repair, we took off 1 hour late and later realized we didn't get new weight and balance showing no jump seaters. Supplemental information from acn 410426: no freight was added or deleted and all the ramp personnel were loading other aircraft. Next time I will certainly keep better tabs on our jump seaters, where they are, and if our paperwork agrees.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FREIGHTER CREW DEPARTS OAK WITH AN IMPROPER PAX COUNT AND AN INCORRECT WT AND BAL MANIFEST.
Narrative: BEFORE WE TAXIED OUT FOR TKOF, WE DISCOVERED A MECHANICAL PROB AND RETURNED TO THE RAMP. OUR MAINT FOUND THE PROB AND INDICATED LESS THAN 1 HR TO REPAIR. WE HAD 4 JUMP SEATERS THAT WERE LISTED ON THE WT AND BAL. THEY CHOSE TO DEPLANE FOR ANOTHER FLT. AFTER THE REPAIR, WE TOOK OFF 1 HR LATE AND LATER REALIZED WE DIDN'T GET NEW WT AND BAL SHOWING NO JUMP SEATERS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 410426: NO FREIGHT WAS ADDED OR DELETED AND ALL THE RAMP PERSONNEL WERE LOADING OTHER ACFT. NEXT TIME I WILL CERTAINLY KEEP BETTER TABS ON OUR JUMP SEATERS, WHERE THEY ARE, AND IF OUR PAPERWORK AGREES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.