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Attributes | |
ACN | 403778 |
Time | |
Date | 199805 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : eggx |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 34750 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : other oceanic enroute : atlantic enroute airway : eggx |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 25000 flight time type : 1800 |
ASRS Report | 403778 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter other other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
At FL340 we were passed by a B747 at FL350. With the B747 several mi ahead and in smooth air, we suddenly encountered moderate to severe wingtip vortices/turbulence. Part of the encounter involved an uncontrolled 15 degree bank to the right. There were no injuries or cabin damage reported. The remainder of the flight was smooth and uneventful. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter says that the wake turbulence was only moderate, but the report was submitted because of the lack of aircraft ctlability. When the aircraft initially rolled into 15 degree bank to the right, reporter captain left it on autoplt which couldn't counteract the forces from the wake. As the aircraft turned to the right, the autoplt regained wings level and reporter offset about 2 mi to the right. After reconsidering the wind being from the south he decided to descend 250 ft and altered course to offset to the left. As the aircraft went through the wake trail the aircraft still bumped but much less severe. Reporter says that the vertical separation of 1000 ft is inadequate for wake spacing and the fact that even after descending 250 ft which now made a 1250 ft separation, they still felt it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767-300 ACFT ON ATLANTIC OCEANIC RTE AT FL340 WAS PASSED BY A B747 AT FL350. APPROX 30-40 MI IN TRAIL OF THE B747 RPTR ACFT EXPERIENCED WAKE TURB WHICH IMMEDIATELY PUT THE ACFT IN A 15 DEG R BANK. RPTR CAPT ALTERED COURSE TO THE R, THEN DSNDED 250 FT AND ALTERED BACK TO A L OFFSET DUE TO WIND DIRECTION.
Narrative: AT FL340 WE WERE PASSED BY A B747 AT FL350. WITH THE B747 SEVERAL MI AHEAD AND IN SMOOTH AIR, WE SUDDENLY ENCOUNTERED MODERATE TO SEVERE WINGTIP VORTICES/TURB. PART OF THE ENCOUNTER INVOLVED AN UNCTLED 15 DEG BANK TO THE R. THERE WERE NO INJURIES OR CABIN DAMAGE RPTED. THE REMAINDER OF THE FLT WAS SMOOTH AND UNEVENTFUL. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR SAYS THAT THE WAKE TURB WAS ONLY MODERATE, BUT THE RPT WAS SUBMITTED BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF ACFT CTLABILITY. WHEN THE ACFT INITIALLY ROLLED INTO 15 DEG BANK TO THE R, RPTR CAPT LEFT IT ON AUTOPLT WHICH COULDN'T COUNTERACT THE FORCES FROM THE WAKE. AS THE ACFT TURNED TO THE R, THE AUTOPLT REGAINED WINGS LEVEL AND RPTR OFFSET ABOUT 2 MI TO THE R. AFTER RECONSIDERING THE WIND BEING FROM THE S HE DECIDED TO DSND 250 FT AND ALTERED COURSE TO OFFSET TO THE L. AS THE ACFT WENT THROUGH THE WAKE TRAIL THE ACFT STILL BUMPED BUT MUCH LESS SEVERE. RPTR SAYS THAT THE VERT SEPARATION OF 1000 FT IS INADEQUATE FOR WAKE SPACING AND THE FACT THAT EVEN AFTER DSNDING 250 FT WHICH NOW MADE A 1250 FT SEPARATION, THEY STILL FELT IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.