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Attributes | |
ACN | 405633 |
Time | |
Date | 199806 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad tower : iad |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 30 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 170 |
ASRS Report | 405633 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 137 flight time total : 13800 |
ASRS Report | 405634 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : unable other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We departed the gate at washington dulles airport at XA05Z on jun/fri/98. We were cleared for takeoff on runway 19L with no assigned heading and on the capitol four departure, climbing to 4000 ft. After handoff to departure control we were instructed to fly a 320 degree heading and climb to 11000 ft. I believe we were also instructed to intercept J-149 off aml. While in the right turn we established visual contact with a turboprop commuter at our 2-2:30 O'clock position, and it appeared that aircraft had departed runway 19R. While in the turn, departure control called and asked our heading. My copilot's response was 'turning to heading 320 degrees, traffic in sight.' shortly after that departure called back again and asked for our heading, and this time my copilot said forcefully 'turning to heading 320 degrees, traffic in sight.' departure control then said 'traffic at 12 O'clock position level off at 4000 ft.' while doing that we received a TCASII RA. Shortly after passing behind traffic we were instructed to turn to a 240 degree heading which was in the direction of the traffic we had just passed. Shortly thereafter we were assigned a northwesterly heading and instructed to climb to 11000 ft and intercept J-149 off aml. At no time were we given any instructions to let us know there was traffic or that we should maintain visual contact with any traffic. We were never advised that we had done anything wrong. It seemed that departure control was very confused about what was happening regarding spacing. I am not certain that they were satisfied with their radar separation, even though we always had safe separation visually. The remainder of the flight was uneventful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC ON DC9 DEP OFF IAD FELT ATC WAS CONFUSED WITH THEIR CLBOUT. WHILE IN A R TURN, FLC SPOTTED A COMMUTER ACFT ON THEIR R THAT APPARENTLY HAD DEP OFF THE R PARALLEL RWY.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED THE GATE AT WASHINGTON DULLES ARPT AT XA05Z ON JUN/FRI/98. WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 19L WITH NO ASSIGNED HEADING AND ON THE CAPITOL FOUR DEP, CLBING TO 4000 FT. AFTER HDOF TO DEP CTL WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO FLY A 320 DEG HDG AND CLB TO 11000 FT. I BELIEVE WE WERE ALSO INSTRUCTED TO INTERCEPT J-149 OFF AML. WHILE IN THE R TURN WE ESTABLISHED VISUAL CONTACT WITH A TURBOPROP COMMUTER AT OUR 2-2:30 O'CLOCK POS, AND IT APPEARED THAT ACFT HAD DEPARTED RWY 19R. WHILE IN THE TURN, DEP CTL CALLED AND ASKED OUR HEADING. MY COPLT'S RESPONSE WAS 'TURNING TO HDG 320 DEGS, TFC IN SIGHT.' SHORTLY AFTER THAT DEP CALLED BACK AGAIN AND ASKED FOR OUR HEADING, AND THIS TIME MY COPLT SAID FORCEFULLY 'TURNING TO HDG 320 DEGS, TFC IN SIGHT.' DEP CTL THEN SAID 'TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK POS LEVEL OFF AT 4000 FT.' WHILE DOING THAT WE RECEIVED A TCASII RA. SHORTLY AFTER PASSING BEHIND TFC WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO TURN TO A 240 DEG HDG WHICH WAS IN THE DIRECTION OF THE TFC WE HAD JUST PASSED. SHORTLY THEREAFTER WE WERE ASSIGNED A NORTHWESTERLY HEADING AND INSTRUCTED TO CLB TO 11000 FT AND INTERCEPT J-149 OFF AML. AT NO TIME WERE WE GIVEN ANY INSTRUCTIONS TO LET US KNOW THERE WAS TFC OR THAT WE SHOULD MAINTAIN VISUAL CONTACT WITH ANY TFC. WE WERE NEVER ADVISED THAT WE HAD DONE ANYTHING WRONG. IT SEEMED THAT DEP CTL WAS VERY CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING REGARDING SPACING. I AM NOT CERTAIN THAT THEY WERE SATISFIED WITH THEIR RADAR SEPARATION, EVEN THOUGH WE ALWAYS HAD SAFE SEPARATION VISUALLY. THE REMAINDER OF THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.