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Reporter claims ord approach on initial contact advised pilot to expect ILS visual but on turn to final cleared the aircraft for a different runway and approach.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 406660 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199806 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | PA-31T Cheyenne II |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 65 flight time total : 12500 flight time type : 25 |
| ASRS Report | 406660 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : unable other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Ord approach indicated we (cheyenne) would be given ILS/visual approach to runway 27L. This was said upon initial communication with ord approach. Vectors were given and a final turn onto final course for ILS. As turn was being made, approach control said we were cleared for ILS runway 22L. Our cheyenne was flying a coupled approach to runway 27L. By the time we reported we had to take evasive action from altitude and course because of a conflict with the other aircraft. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter was captain, PNF, and stated he flies into ord 3 or 4 times each month. Said he and his first officer were taken by surprise when turned for different procedure than expected. The reporter said they overshot the approach and a 40-50 degree turn was required back to the final. The runway was in sight and a clearance for visual approach was issued. Discussed with supervisor after landing and was told no loss of separation occurred even though the airliner turning in for the other runway advised on the radio he had received a TCASII TA. He said his approach speed at the time of the incident was approximately 120 KTS. No further action was taken.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR CLAIMS ORD APCH ON INITIAL CONTACT ADVISED PLT TO EXPECT ILS VISUAL BUT ON TURN TO FINAL CLRED THE ACFT FOR A DIFFERENT RWY AND APCH.
Narrative: ORD APCH INDICATED WE (CHEYENNE) WOULD BE GIVEN ILS/VISUAL APCH TO RWY 27L. THIS WAS SAID UPON INITIAL COM WITH ORD APCH. VECTORS WERE GIVEN AND A FINAL TURN ONTO FINAL COURSE FOR ILS. AS TURN WAS BEING MADE, APCH CTL SAID WE WERE CLRED FOR ILS RWY 22L. OUR CHEYENNE WAS FLYING A COUPLED APCH TO RWY 27L. BY THE TIME WE RPTED WE HAD TO TAKE EVASIVE ACTION FROM ALT AND COURSE BECAUSE OF A CONFLICT WITH THE OTHER ACFT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR WAS CAPT, PNF, AND STATED HE FLIES INTO ORD 3 OR 4 TIMES EACH MONTH. SAID HE AND HIS FO WERE TAKEN BY SURPRISE WHEN TURNED FOR DIFFERENT PROC THAN EXPECTED. THE RPTR SAID THEY OVERSHOT THE APCH AND A 40-50 DEG TURN WAS REQUIRED BACK TO THE FINAL. THE RWY WAS IN SIGHT AND A CLRNC FOR VISUAL APCH WAS ISSUED. DISCUSSED WITH SUPVR AFTER LNDG AND WAS TOLD NO LOSS OF SEPARATION OCCURRED EVEN THOUGH THE AIRLINER TURNING IN FOR THE OTHER RWY ADVISED ON THE RADIO HE HAD RECEIVED A TCASII TA. HE SAID HIS APCH SPD AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT WAS APPROX 120 KTS. NO FURTHER ACTION WAS TAKEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.