Narrative:

Since the taxi distance to this runway is very short I began my taxi flow in preparation for takeoff. As we approached the hold short line we were faring east with the sun low on the horizon and very bright. With the sun in such a position and the fact there are two sets of lines, one old and one new, it is difficult for the crew to determine which one is correct because of the glare off the blacktop the faded lines look about the same as the new lines. In such a situation taxi hold short signs should be used to determine this. However in our situation my taxi flow kept my head down and I believe once I looked up the sign would not be in my view because of the angle from the cockpit and the narrow txwys. To correct the problem better paint and complete removal of old and perhaps signs on both sides for each crew member. This would prevent crews from inadvertently crossing the hold short lines. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: first officer stated he had not contacted anyone about the problem with runway hold lines at jln. Asked about the condition of the airport in general, the first officer said overall it appears to be well maintained. He said the problem with existing lines is glare, and is more pronounced when the sun is just coming up or just going down. He also noted that the hold signs for the runway are located on the left side only and usually cannot be seen by the pilot in the right seat. He suggested signs be located on both sides of the taxiway and the hold lines be repainted and old ones be blotted out. The reporter added that the company does have a station manager at the airport but does not believe he has been told of the situation.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: REACHING THE HOLDING POS FOR RWY 36 AT JLN ARPT, THE FO NOTICED THAT THERE ARE TWO SETS OF PAINTED HOLD LINES. ONE IS APPARENTLY AN OLD AND FADED SET AND THE OTHER APPEARS TO BE A NEWER SET. WHEN THE SUN IS BRIGHT, IT IS DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE WHICH OF THE TWO SETS IS AUTHENTIC.

Narrative: SINCE THE TAXI DISTANCE TO THIS RWY IS VERY SHORT I BEGAN MY TAXI FLOW IN PREPARATION FOR TKOF. AS WE APCHED THE HOLD SHORT LINE WE WERE FARING E WITH THE SUN LOW ON THE HORIZON AND VERY BRIGHT. WITH THE SUN IN SUCH A POS AND THE FACT THERE ARE TWO SETS OF LINES, ONE OLD AND ONE NEW, IT IS DIFFICULT FOR THE CREW TO DETERMINE WHICH ONE IS CORRECT BECAUSE OF THE GLARE OFF THE BLACKTOP THE FADED LINES LOOK ABOUT THE SAME AS THE NEW LINES. IN SUCH A SIT TAXI HOLD SHORT SIGNS SHOULD BE USED TO DETERMINE THIS. HOWEVER IN OUR SIT MY TAXI FLOW KEPT MY HEAD DOWN AND I BELIEVE ONCE I LOOKED UP THE SIGN WOULD NOT BE IN MY VIEW BECAUSE OF THE ANGLE FROM THE COCKPIT AND THE NARROW TXWYS. TO CORRECT THE PROB BETTER PAINT AND COMPLETE REMOVAL OF OLD AND PERHAPS SIGNS ON BOTH SIDES FOR EACH CREW MEMBER. THIS WOULD PREVENT CREWS FROM INADVERTENTLY XING THE HOLD SHORT LINES. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: FO STATED HE HAD NOT CONTACTED ANYONE ABOUT THE PROB WITH RWY HOLD LINES AT JLN. ASKED ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE ARPT IN GENERAL, THE FO SAID OVERALL IT APPEARS TO BE WELL MAINTAINED. HE SAID THE PROB WITH EXISTING LINES IS GLARE, AND IS MORE PRONOUNCED WHEN THE SUN IS JUST COMING UP OR JUST GOING DOWN. HE ALSO NOTED THAT THE HOLD SIGNS FOR THE RWY ARE LOCATED ON THE L SIDE ONLY AND USUALLY CANNOT BE SEEN BY THE PLT IN THE R SEAT. HE SUGGESTED SIGNS BE LOCATED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE TXWY AND THE HOLD LINES BE REPAINTED AND OLD ONES BE BLOTTED OUT. THE RPTR ADDED THAT THE COMPANY DOES HAVE A STATION MGR AT THE ARPT BUT DOES NOT BELIEVE HE HAS BEEN TOLD OF THE SIT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.