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A captain's report on the lahso procedure at ord wherein there is an apparent problem of interfacility coordination between ord approach control and ord tower controller.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 407763 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199807 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 1500 agl bound upper : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord tower : ord |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 407763 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
The ATIS indicated lahso operations were in effect. We advised approach on initial contact that we were unable to lahso. Upon contacting the tower at the LOM for runway 9R we were advised that we were cleared to land, to hold short of taxiway south. We advised unable and landed without incident. Again, approach did not advise tower of our intentions. What good does it do to tell approach if they refuse to advise the tower.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CAPT'S RPT ON THE LAHSO PROC AT ORD WHEREIN THERE IS AN APPARENT PROB OF INTERFAC COORD BTWN ORD APCH CTL AND ORD TWR CTLR.
Narrative: THE ATIS INDICATED LAHSO OPS WERE IN EFFECT. WE ADVISED APCH ON INITIAL CONTACT THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO LAHSO. UPON CONTACTING THE TWR AT THE LOM FOR RWY 9R WE WERE ADVISED THAT WE WERE CLRED TO LAND, TO HOLD SHORT OF TXWY S. WE ADVISED UNABLE AND LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. AGAIN, APCH DID NOT ADVISE TWR OF OUR INTENTIONS. WHAT GOOD DOES IT DO TO TELL APCH IF THEY REFUSE TO ADVISE THE TWR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.