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Attributes | |
ACN | 408550 |
Time | |
Date | 199807 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : slc |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : slc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 5300 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 408550 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
New first officer in training on descent into slc. B737 heavy (112000 pounds) and high/fast for arrival. Captain took aircraft at 7000 ft MSL and requested s-turns to get down and change to runway 34L from runway 34R for additional space to get down. Tower advised traffic, which we acknowledged, but there were several B727's in the traffic area and we saw a B727 on downwind to runway 34L. The traffic called out to us was on final for runway 34L. We saw that traffic, confirmed cleared for runway 34L, and tower said we were cleared for runway 34R...runway 34R and we had traffic less than a mi for runway 34L. We landed uneventfully on runway 34R and were told to contact tower (by phone). Captain called tower, explained he had let first officer go a little too far in his approach and got high, too high for the intended runway. As first officer, I was ready to go around at 3000 ft AGL and rack-it-up to experience. The captain reacted to the situation and anticipated tower's response (expected response) and quickly admitted going around would be the proper and professional action for the situation. Tower called out traffic but failed to mention 'on final' or 'on downwind,' which would have helped immediately and kept us from assuming runway 34L would be given to us for landing. A lengthy debrief followed and captain more closely followed subsequent dscnts with constant instruction/comments on following flts.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 CREW MAKES S-TURNS ON FINAL TO LOSE ALT AND MAKES A REQUEST FOR THE OTHER PARALLEL RWY. A TFC CONFLICT NEARLY OCCURS WHEN CREW READS BACK THE WRONG RWY FOR APCH.
Narrative: NEW FO IN TRAINING ON DSCNT INTO SLC. B737 HVY (112000 LBS) AND HIGH/FAST FOR ARR. CAPT TOOK ACFT AT 7000 FT MSL AND REQUESTED S-TURNS TO GET DOWN AND CHANGE TO RWY 34L FROM RWY 34R FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE TO GET DOWN. TWR ADVISED TFC, WHICH WE ACKNOWLEDGED, BUT THERE WERE SEVERAL B727'S IN THE TFC AREA AND WE SAW A B727 ON DOWNWIND TO RWY 34L. THE TFC CALLED OUT TO US WAS ON FINAL FOR RWY 34L. WE SAW THAT TFC, CONFIRMED CLRED FOR RWY 34L, AND TWR SAID WE WERE CLRED FOR RWY 34R...RWY 34R AND WE HAD TFC LESS THAN A MI FOR RWY 34L. WE LANDED UNEVENTFULLY ON RWY 34R AND WERE TOLD TO CONTACT TWR (BY PHONE). CAPT CALLED TWR, EXPLAINED HE HAD LET FO GO A LITTLE TOO FAR IN HIS APCH AND GOT HIGH, TOO HIGH FOR THE INTENDED RWY. AS FO, I WAS READY TO GO AROUND AT 3000 FT AGL AND RACK-IT-UP TO EXPERIENCE. THE CAPT REACTED TO THE SIT AND ANTICIPATED TWR'S RESPONSE (EXPECTED RESPONSE) AND QUICKLY ADMITTED GOING AROUND WOULD BE THE PROPER AND PROFESSIONAL ACTION FOR THE SIT. TWR CALLED OUT TFC BUT FAILED TO MENTION 'ON FINAL' OR 'ON DOWNWIND,' WHICH WOULD HAVE HELPED IMMEDIATELY AND KEPT US FROM ASSUMING RWY 34L WOULD BE GIVEN TO US FOR LNDG. A LENGTHY DEBRIEF FOLLOWED AND CAPT MORE CLOSELY FOLLOWED SUBSEQUENT DSCNTS WITH CONSTANT INSTRUCTION/COMMENTS ON FOLLOWING FLTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.