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Air carrier FK10 PIC disputes with TRACON approach controller whether they received and acknowledged a descent clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 408740 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199807 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : jvl |
| State Reference | WI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 6200 msl bound upper : 7000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 408740 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Inside krena intersection, level 7000 ft, we were cleared to 6000 ft. The controller had us turn to a heading of 170 degrees and at about 6200 ft he said, you were not cleared to 6000 ft, but descend to 4000 ft. We told the controller that we acknowledged the 6000 ft altitude.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FK10 PIC DISPUTES WITH TRACON APCH CTLR WHETHER THEY RECEIVED AND ACKNOWLEDGED A DSCNT CLRNC.
Narrative: INSIDE KRENA INTXN, LEVEL 7000 FT, WE WERE CLRED TO 6000 FT. THE CTLR HAD US TURN TO A HDG OF 170 DEGS AND AT ABOUT 6200 FT HE SAID, YOU WERE NOT CLRED TO 6000 FT, BUT DSND TO 4000 FT. WE TOLD THE CTLR THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGED THE 6000 FT ALT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.