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Attributes | |
ACN | 409172 |
Time | |
Date | 199807 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : abq |
State Reference | NM |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : abq |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 409172 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On the FRIH03 arrival we were cleared to descend to I believe 8000 ft. ATC vectoring us, and a fair amount of traffic (same VFR) near the north end of albuquerque. I caught sight of one target on TCASII at 11 O'clock position and about 3 mi, that looked like a potential conflict. We were cleared down through his altitude, and appeared to be converging. I watched him for a couple of seconds, and then told my first officer to level off until we passed that target. I had my TCASII in below/relative, so I can't say what his MSL altitude was for sure. We started to level off, and almost simultaneously got a TA from abq approach and a TCASII 'traffic, climb, climb' RA. My first officer was following the RA, and called approach to tell them we were climbing to follow the TCASII RA. Approach apologized for the late traffic call (he was quite busy at the time). The traffic appeared to be VFR. Approach said the traffic appeared to start climbing unexpectedly. Our closest relative altitude was about 300 ft at about 1 mi, and 700 ft vertical as we crossed almost directly over him. Without TCASII RA, I estimate we would have come within 200 ft vertically and about 100 yards off his nose. I acquired the traffic visually at about 1/2 mi, even though I knew where to look from the TCASII display. While I think we would have missed, it would have been very close. Thank you, TCASII.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF B737-300 HAS CONFLICT WITH AN SMA WHEN UNDER ABQ CTL. TCASII RA ALERTS THE FLC JUST AS ATC GIVES TA.
Narrative: ON THE FRIH03 ARR WE WERE CLRED TO DSND TO I BELIEVE 8000 FT. ATC VECTORING US, AND A FAIR AMOUNT OF TFC (SAME VFR) NEAR THE N END OF ALBUQUERQUE. I CAUGHT SIGHT OF ONE TARGET ON TCASII AT 11 O'CLOCK POS AND ABOUT 3 MI, THAT LOOKED LIKE A POTENTIAL CONFLICT. WE WERE CLRED DOWN THROUGH HIS ALT, AND APPEARED TO BE CONVERGING. I WATCHED HIM FOR A COUPLE OF SECONDS, AND THEN TOLD MY FO TO LEVEL OFF UNTIL WE PASSED THAT TARGET. I HAD MY TCASII IN BELOW/RELATIVE, SO I CAN'T SAY WHAT HIS MSL ALT WAS FOR SURE. WE STARTED TO LEVEL OFF, AND ALMOST SIMULTANEOUSLY GOT A TA FROM ABQ APCH AND A TCASII 'TFC, CLB, CLB' RA. MY FO WAS FOLLOWING THE RA, AND CALLED APCH TO TELL THEM WE WERE CLBING TO FOLLOW THE TCASII RA. APCH APOLOGIZED FOR THE LATE TFC CALL (HE WAS QUITE BUSY AT THE TIME). THE TFC APPEARED TO BE VFR. APCH SAID THE TFC APPEARED TO START CLBING UNEXPECTEDLY. OUR CLOSEST RELATIVE ALT WAS ABOUT 300 FT AT ABOUT 1 MI, AND 700 FT VERT AS WE CROSSED ALMOST DIRECTLY OVER HIM. WITHOUT TCASII RA, I ESTIMATE WE WOULD HAVE COME WITHIN 200 FT VERTLY AND ABOUT 100 YARDS OFF HIS NOSE. I ACQUIRED THE TFC VISUALLY AT ABOUT 1/2 MI, EVEN THOUGH I KNEW WHERE TO LOOK FROM THE TCASII DISPLAY. WHILE I THINK WE WOULD HAVE MISSED, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY CLOSE. THANK YOU, TCASII.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.