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Attributes | |
ACN | 410540 |
Time | |
Date | 199808 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : san |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5500 msl bound upper : 5500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 1170 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 410540 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I reviewed my student's preflight planning and determined that his preparation was good. I did not recognize, however, that he had planned to fly at an incorrect VFR cruising altitude. As a result, the entire cruise portion of a flight from cll to sat was conducted at 5500 ft MSL. This was plain oversight on my behalf. In fact, during our discussion during preflight planning on what altitude to fly back (at night), we discovered our error. What could have helped me realize my error? Perhaps a prompting from ATC. During the flight, I was also teaching my student how to secure VFR flight following from an ARTCC. As a result, we were in contact with center throughout the flight. I realize that is not their function, but I do know they are familiar with our cruising altitudes (I once requested the wrong altitude and was corrected by ATC).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN INSTRUCTOR PLT RPT ON NOT COMPLYING WITH THE ALT HDG RULE WHILE FLYING W FROM CLL TO SAT. THE ACFT WAS AT 5500 FT AND UNDER ARTCC RADAR OBSERVATION.
Narrative: I REVIEWED MY STUDENT'S PREFLT PLANNING AND DETERMINED THAT HIS PREPARATION WAS GOOD. I DID NOT RECOGNIZE, HOWEVER, THAT HE HAD PLANNED TO FLY AT AN INCORRECT VFR CRUISING ALT. AS A RESULT, THE ENTIRE CRUISE PORTION OF A FLT FROM CLL TO SAT WAS CONDUCTED AT 5500 FT MSL. THIS WAS PLAIN OVERSIGHT ON MY BEHALF. IN FACT, DURING OUR DISCUSSION DURING PREFLT PLANNING ON WHAT ALT TO FLY BACK (AT NIGHT), WE DISCOVERED OUR ERROR. WHAT COULD HAVE HELPED ME REALIZE MY ERROR? PERHAPS A PROMPTING FROM ATC. DURING THE FLT, I WAS ALSO TEACHING MY STUDENT HOW TO SECURE VFR FLT FOLLOWING FROM AN ARTCC. AS A RESULT, WE WERE IN CONTACT WITH CTR THROUGHOUT THE FLT. I REALIZE THAT IS NOT THEIR FUNCTION, BUT I DO KNOW THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH OUR CRUISING ALTS (I ONCE REQUESTED THE WRONG ALT AND WAS CORRECTED BY ATC).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.