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Attributes | |
ACN | 410984 |
Time | |
Date | 199807 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : day |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2800 |
ASRS Report | 410984 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Unable to start #1 engine with #1 ignition system, nor the #2 engine. Both would start with #2 ignition system. Checked MEL and found it to be somewhat ambiguous as to legality of flight with this situation. I called the air carrier technical maintenance authority/authorized and was told this situation was legal and I could crew placard the #1 ignition system. Flying to dfw from day, I again checked the MEL and wasn't sure that this was legal. Upon arrival dfw, called flight operations technical department and was told that this was not legal. Maintenance was called and the #1 ignition system was repaired prior to further flight. Suggest wording in MEL be clarified for this and many other items.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FK10 CREW QUESTIONED LEGALITY OF DISPATCH WITH MEL'ED INOP MULTIPLE ENG IGNITION.
Narrative: UNABLE TO START #1 ENG WITH #1 IGNITION SYS, NOR THE #2 ENG. BOTH WOULD START WITH #2 IGNITION SYS. CHKED MEL AND FOUND IT TO BE SOMEWHAT AMBIGUOUS AS TO LEGALITY OF FLT WITH THIS SIT. I CALLED THE ACR TECHNICAL MAINT AUTH AND WAS TOLD THIS SIT WAS LEGAL AND I COULD CREW PLACARD THE #1 IGNITION SYS. FLYING TO DFW FROM DAY, I AGAIN CHKED THE MEL AND WASN'T SURE THAT THIS WAS LEGAL. UPON ARR DFW, CALLED FLT OPS TECHNICAL DEPT AND WAS TOLD THAT THIS WAS NOT LEGAL. MAINT WAS CALLED AND THE #1 IGNITION SYS WAS REPAIRED PRIOR TO FURTHER FLT. SUGGEST WORDING IN MEL BE CLARIFIED FOR THIS AND MANY OTHER ITEMS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.